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1 posted on 03/13/2020 12:00:46 AM PDT by bitt
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2 posted on 03/13/2020 12:01:02 AM PDT by bitt ("Make yourself sheep and the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin)
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Much easier said than done and analysis in the past shows that banning shorts doesn’t much affect prices in a multi trillion dollar stock market.


3 posted on 03/13/2020 12:09:14 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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Make so that you can buy stocks and sell stocks on demand.

Ban everything else.

You in or your out. No other speculation allowed.


5 posted on 03/13/2020 12:26:29 AM PDT by Revel
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Stay tuned. As president Trump is about to deliver a speech to the citizens about suspending all taxes indefinitely, Nancy Pelosi is seen behind him ripping up the tax code. Greta, thunderbolts & lightning, Thor is protesting outside our house with all of the rest of CONgre$$ and the federal reserve cartel members.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkhX5W7JoWI

See you on the dark side of criminals.


6 posted on 03/13/2020 12:27:01 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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Soroznazi. Just as Moi proposed. It fits his MO exactly. And he’s been working 25/7 to undermine USA. And he wants an obedient puppet back in the White House. I bet soroznazi is in this market manipulation. Up to his evil eyeballs


9 posted on 03/13/2020 1:34:08 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE).)
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That is exactly what is going on. Short selling should have been banned a long time ago.


11 posted on 03/13/2020 2:50:31 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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I’m no expert, but it seems to me that a more likely explanation is that the massive sell-off is driven by short-sellers who have to sell assets just to cover their purchases. This would explain why nearly every asset class is in decline — including those that should rise and fall in opposite directions under “normal” market conditions.


12 posted on 03/13/2020 3:12:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Oh, but it's hard to live by the rules; I never could and still never do.")
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This from 2018, true then and true today (sorry for posting from CNN):

“Machines are driving Wall Street’s wild ride, not humans”

https://money.cnn.com/2018/02/06/investing/wall-street-computers-program-trading/index.html


15 posted on 03/13/2020 4:16:37 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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I tried to explain to my husband that the market was being manipulated not just because of the virus but to fan and expand a crisis. He thought I was seeing conspiracy theories. I reminded him that there was money to be made in the destruction of a nation(or a presidency). Problem is I could not quite show him the how and the who. This article sure is timely.


17 posted on 03/13/2020 4:20:20 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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18 posted on 03/13/2020 4:30:09 AM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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This is the first thing I thought of when the market tanked. George Soros at work. But it may be just independent short sellers.


22 posted on 03/13/2020 5:30:21 AM PDT by Crucial
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I am about the last person to defend Soros around here, but know something of his trading history. No competent investor tries to short a stock on it's way down - for a very good reason. The folks trying to manipulate stocks back to their previous overpriced values can create a rally by buying up stocks, forcing the stops the shorts put in and creating a short-selling rally. Good investors get their shorts in before the market capitulates and starts selling an overpriced stock.

Soros made his killing on the pound by recognizing it was way overvalued given the strength of the British economy then, shorting it while the Bank of England was trying to support it, and then enjoying the ride down when England couldn't support it. There are at least two sides to any market manipulation.

And to put this in perspective, this market is still overpriced. Look at Schiller P/E ratios right now. They are still way above the historic trend line, there is no reason to expect earnings to resume any upward trend for some significant period of time after this is over.

Moreover we are at the beginning of a wrenching change in economies as we the global economic order is reordered to something less dependent upon China and more regionally centralized. This will be terrible for China, but good for our more reliable trading partners.

And Brexit came at just the right time for them and us.

It's going to be a very bumpy ride ahead which will last a while, but our economy will be more resilience as a consequence.

23 posted on 03/13/2020 5:34:52 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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It is from short sellers who are using the coronavirus panic to attack the market in an attempt to steal a fortune from Main Street investors

When nobody buys stocks there is no "fortune" being "stolen". When the sellers greatly outnumber buyers the price drops until the sellers are willing to buy (like me this morning). Short sellers are making their money by speculating on a price drop. They may even be part of the media propaganda machine. But they didn't steal the money.

Also the next step is the short squeeze. Undoubtedly the dumbest of the short sellers will lose a lot of money in the near future, as they will be part of a buying panic.

24 posted on 03/13/2020 5:40:51 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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New Data Shows Evidence of Short Seller Attack on Market

Most of whom have FR screen names, no doubt


26 posted on 03/13/2020 5:43:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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> “This is how George Soros made a fortune by short selling the British pound.”

I place my bet on Soros being behind the current selloff.


28 posted on 03/13/2020 6:48:27 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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Even if this be true, in part, the short sellers are merely taking advantage of the fact that more than 50% of the value of stocks owned today is NOT OWNED by persons or institutions that make their own decisions about what stocks to buy or sell.

The majority is now run by mathematical algorithms that index funds use to keep an index fund in proportionate sink with the index it mimics - be it the Dow Industrials, the S&P 500 or any other. Those funds - index funds - are merely lemmings that follow whatever direction an index goes, up or down. Those lemmings now outnumber the value traders and speculators. So in today’s Wall Street Markets, it only takes a minority to push strongly enough in one direction - up or down a bit - and the majority holdings will follow more or less “automatically”. Repeated often enough they can become like a snowball that can’t stop itself.

A good benevolent dictator would realize the problem of having too many lemmings making a majority of stock investment decisions, as they just provide opportunities for market manipulators.


32 posted on 03/13/2020 8:17:20 AM PDT by Wuli
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“Wall Street short sellers are attacking the market to make a killing, tank the economy, and get Trump out of office.”

Absolutely correct. They also have the media, including FOX, especially most of the weekend crew, fanning the flames.

“This is how George Soros made a fortune by short selling the British pound.”

First one I thought of, no doubt about it. He should be investigated and put away. Oh, wait, he’s a democrat!


35 posted on 03/14/2020 3:47:49 PM PDT by melancholy
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