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To: NOBO2012
re: hp computers - I totally agree, I'll never buy one again. Right now I have two:

My company gave me one (a laptop) to stay connected at home. It is agreeably light, sleek, good screen and decent keyboard. (I haven't found a laptop yet with a good keyboard) However, it suffers from the same malady that seems to strike all hp computers: it is relatively slow. Now, this one is a step up from the previous one. (can you say "tech refresh"???) Overall it is not too bad, almost snappy. However, if you look at the spec sheet it *should* be a screamer. It's like looking at the spec sheet for a Ferrari, then driving it and realizing you got a V-6 Camaro. Or maybe the Camaro with the small V-8, automatic, and too tall of gears.

I believe (and so does my IT systems guru at work) it is because of fundamental system design choices hp makes. (he digresses into memory bus width, wait states, chipsets, interconnect schemes...) This could be related to your driver problems. When a manufacturer goes out on their own, or uses oddball components, the drivers in the OS may not get as much attention as mainstream parts.

My other hp is a personal laptop purchased for my wife a few years back. She loved it for about 2 weeks, then hated it so much she went back to Macs and has never looked back. It was originally loaded with Windows 8.0 or 8.1. The user interface was kind of cool and new at first. Then it got increasingly annoying. (yes that is an OS issue, not a hardware issue, read on) Couple that with a touch screen that seemed to make it's own fingerprints, and a touchpad that seemed to have developed a mind of it's own... After she went Mac I inherited it. I wiped it and put KDE Neon Linux on it. It boots slower than any other machine I currently have. Win 8.x was glacial - a big part of my wife's frustration, you never really knew when it was finally completely booted up and ready (?) for user input. The really old Sony Viao laptop it replaces for me (PCG 61A12L circa 2010) boots MX Linux in about the same time. Heck, even the $45 Raspberry pi 4B I just got boots raspbian about as fast. I did end up adding Win 10 to a partition on the hp. I honestly don't remember why. I haven't "needed" to use it in at least a year. But it is there, our token Windows machine in the household. Oh, and in contrast to the newer company laptop, this hp is neither agreeably light nor sleek. Well, at least under KDE neon I can auto-disable the touchpad when a mouse is connected.

I consider the Raspberry pi an indication of just how much computers have improved. A 4 core, 64 bit computer with dual 4K HDMI, USB 2.0 & 3.0, WiFi and Gig-ethernet...for $35 at the entry level??? If it wasn't for processing GoPro video and a couple of other things... This pi setup I am experimenting with does 95% of my computing needs with a total investment of about $150. Most of that is in the 4 TB hard disk I got to fool around with.

I consider the "impeachment" fiasco and the 'rats actually saying nice things about Iran an indication of just how bad they've gotten. Well, we've known they have been un-American and anti-American for some time. (decades) They've just gotten more and more public about their true motives and ideals.

15 posted on 01/05/2020 6:00:44 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: ThunderSleeps
I consider the "impeachment" fiasco and the 'rats actually saying nice things about Iran an indication of just how bad they've gotten. Well, we've known they have been un-American and anti-American for some time. (decades) They've just gotten more and more public about their true motives and ideals.

See post #26...

27 posted on 01/05/2020 6:35:43 AM PST by null and void (The government wants to disarm us after 243 yrs 'cuz they plan to do things we would shoot them for!)
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