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Trump to award Medal of Honor to Green Beret for heroics in 2008 Afghanistan fight
Stars and Stripes ^ | October 10, 2019 | Corey Dickstein

Posted on 10/10/2019 9:05:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Army Master Sgt. Matthew O. Williams will receive the Medal of Honor this month for his lifesaving actions in the frozen mountains of eastern Afghanistan’s Nuristan province during a 2008 mission to kill or capture a high-value target, the White House announced Thursday.

President Donald Trump will award the nation’s highest military honor to the Green Beret in a White House ceremony Oct. 30, the administration said in a statement. The award will be an upgrade of the Silver Star that Williams initially received for his role in the fight that would become known as the Battle of Shok Valley.

Williams, who remains on active duty with 3rd Special Forces Group at Fort Bragg, N.C., will be the second soldier to receive the Medal of Honor for his actions during that battle, which took place April 6, 2008. Retired Army Staff Sgt. Ronald J. Shurer received the medal from Trump on Oct. 1, 2018, which was also an upgrade of the Silver Star that he was initially awarded for his actions in that battle.

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; army; greenberet; medal; moh; socom; specialforces; specops
There's a huge gap between the silver star and the medal of honor.
1 posted on 10/10/2019 9:05:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/staff-sgt-ronald-j-shurer-ii/

more detail here?


2 posted on 10/10/2019 9:15:10 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shurer was originally awarded the Silver Star but that awarded was upgraded upon further review, the Military Times reported.


Would this not be unusual? The original award was a “slight” and you have to overide a lot to upgrade because it says the original officers who made the award were wrong?


3 posted on 10/10/2019 9:18:20 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Hell of a man. Good read. Thanks for that


4 posted on 10/10/2019 9:32:43 AM PDT by This_Dude
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To: PeterPrinciple

“Would this not be unusual? The original award was a “slight” and you have to overide a lot to upgrade because it says the original officers who made the award were wrong?”

Usually awards get downgraded by REMFs between shoeshines at the Pentagon. What was he originally recommended for by his CO in country?


5 posted on 10/10/2019 9:39:49 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

They under-decorated him originally. The DOD dislikes living MOH recipients. They are not so easy to control like the dead ones.


6 posted on 10/10/2019 9:40:26 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: PeterPrinciple
The original award was a “slight” and you have to overide a lot to upgrade because it says the original officers who made the award were wrong?

My view on this was that the review requirements for the MoH and Distinguished Service Cross (DSC) are lengthy, done at the Pentagon and subject to political views. I BELIEVE that the Silver Star is decided at Division level with 'oversight' by higher levels if someone raises an issue. There has been a past history of both too easy and too hard decisions in the award of these top two medals and I have little problem when a delayed award is announced.

Congratulations to Army Master Sgt. Matthew O. Williams, I know that you may feel unworthy of the honor BUT, like many of your predecessors, wear it to honor your fallen comrades! Ten-hut & hand salute!

7 posted on 10/10/2019 9:41:33 AM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

The review process for valor awards during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars became ridiculous, especially for the Medal of Honor and the Service Crosses (Distinguished Service Cross, Navy Cross, and Air Force Cross which required approval at the Department of Defense leve. The Army was the most stringent and was done by personnel specialists, mostly civilians with none or little military service. Panels included veterans who were receipients of the Medal of Honor or the DSC. Some of these believed that these wars were not like WWII, Korea, or Vietnam and therefore the highest decorations were not warranted.

The result was a mess, people sitting in a comfortable, air conditioned conference room making judgments on what people in dire combat did or did not do. All services have conducted reviews of these decisions and many have be reversed. Essentially DoD turned over the responsibility to the bureaucrats in lieu of the leaders and commanders who were in a position to make the right judgments.


8 posted on 10/10/2019 9:54:25 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: SES1066

They’ve turned the MOH into a political award, complete with numerous sorority rules and even political vetting to make sure you aren’t embarrassing.

It’s shameful and today many very deserving men are passed over for awards they would have normally received in WWII, Korea and Vietnam.

The bottom line is that it’s all men, and such men exhibit values our government wants suppressed today.


9 posted on 10/10/2019 9:58:49 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An interim award.... While the bureaucratic machinations of the DOD/Specific service grind away at the MOH.


10 posted on 10/10/2019 10:21:58 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Manly Warrior

Usually it’s the next higher award, the DSC or Navy Cross.


11 posted on 10/10/2019 10:23:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

hurer was initially awarded the Silver Star for his role in the operation. In 2016, the Pentagon conducted a review of all valor medals awarded since the 9/11 terror attacks and this resulted in Shurer’s award being upgraded to the Medal of Honor. He received the award from President Donald Trump on October 1, 2018 in a ceremony at the White House.[14]


Interesting that there was a review and glad he received it from Trump


12 posted on 10/10/2019 11:13:07 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I could be wrong but I think that was Operation Anaconda in Afgan. Although it didn’t say in the right up.


13 posted on 10/10/2019 12:06:21 PM PDT by Rappini (Compromise has its place. It's called second.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A very respectful bump to this American hero!


14 posted on 10/11/2019 6:32:05 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies & other DemoKKKrats: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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