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When Hillary Clinton Colluded With Ukraine Against Trump
Flopping Aces ^ | 09-28-19 | Daniel John Sobieski

Posted on 09/28/2019 9:18:51 AM PDT by Starman417

So now we have a whistleblower who isn’t because he cannot be either from his circumstance or from the law. He or she had no firsthand knowledge, weren’t on the call or in the room, and in any case cannot blow the whistle on a unitary executive, namely President Trump. You can only be a whistleblower for an agency you are a member of. We have a quid without a quo and a phone conversation in which President Trump did not pressure a Ukrainian leader into a crime Joe Biden has previously confessed to, namely threatening to withhold a loan guarantee unless the Ukrainian government fire a prosecutor looking into a company that was paying Hunter Biden $600,0000 a year, a man with no special knowledge of the Ukraine or the business.

As Trump lawyer and former New York Mayor Rudy Guiliani points out, the phone transcript makes Trump the whistleblower and Biden the criminal in a Ukrainian collusion saga that leads to Hillary Clinton and not Donald Trump. As Giulian states in an interview with Fox News’ John Roberts:

The reality is, the distinction is this. What they are trying to say is, I went there for a political mission to kind of get Joe Biden in trouble.

Ridiculous.

I went there as a lawyer defending his client. I -- I have known about this for five months. I have been trying to get people to cover this for five months. So, I knew it would be very, very hard to get this out.

And what I'm talking about, this, it's Ukrainian collusion, which was large, significant, and proven with Hillary Clinton, with the Democratic National Committee, a woman named Chalupa, with the ambassador, with an FBI agent who's now been hired by George Soros who was funding a lot of it.

If you want real collusion with a real trail of evidence of people trying to do real things interfering with our elections, particularly the 2016 campaign, try Hillary Clinton’s real collusion with the Ukraine to derail and besmirch Team Trump. As Politico reported in a story that went nowhere at the time:
Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

Here you have a meeting between a DNC operative in a foreign embassy receiving materials used to defame and derail the Trump campaign. This meeting had real consequences worse than in the case of the Eric Trump meeting which bored its participants to death.

Was anyone interested? Certainly not MSNBC’s Brian Williams and Andrea Mitchell who were puzzled as to what Donald Trump was referring to when he tweeted about Team Hillary’s collusion with Ukraine:

On MSNBC Wednesday morning, two of MSNBC’s most prominent anchors admitted they had no idea what Trump was referring to, when he tweeted out that the Clinton campaign also sought out information from foreign government officials to help boost her campaign, during the 2016 election. After reading the tweet, Brian Williams asked Andrea Mitchell if she knew what he was talking about. “I’m hoping you can help me decipher this,” he asked. “It’s hard to figure out what this is about,” Andrea Mitchell quizzically responded.
It wouldn’t have been so hard if the crack investigative reporters at MSNBC and CNN had followed the facts and the named sources in the Politico report instead of unnamed sources who produce fake news about Team Trump which result in stories being retrace and reporters resigning. As MRC/Neswbusters reported:

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: andreamitchell; brianwilliams; burisma; clinton; msnbc; nbc; nobrainscollectively; politico; pollutico; stalinstyleshowtrial; trump; ukraine

1 posted on 09/28/2019 9:18:51 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Enjoy the next two weeks. It’s probably the last of the USA.


2 posted on 09/28/2019 9:24:37 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Starman417

Just bring charges against Hillary and Schiff and watch the Democrats go bonkers. Detail both in general population, then move to solitary, and get those folks from NYC to take care of the rest. Otherwise, expose those to include the ones who had Epstein out along with them.


3 posted on 09/28/2019 9:39:05 AM PDT by Jumper
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Someone should charge Hillary for her crimes even if only as a bargaining chip to quit this crap against PDJT and the American citizens. I think in the long run we can probably survive the evil of Hillary et al but if they get DJT thrown out I don't see how we'll ever be a decent free country again.

The leaders of the rat party come from disgusting districts..I can't believe they're even taken seriously and voted in again and again. Apparently the people in Pelosi's and Schit's district think having to avoid rats and poop is ok...or at least better than electing a Republican. And then there is no shame about any of this, no guilty conscience...no nothing but greed for power.

I'm quite worried - the rats are relentless and the GOP pretends to be the opposition.

4 posted on 09/28/2019 10:00:20 AM PDT by Aria
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To: Starman417
This is what happens when your agenda is derailed due to lack of prosecution of the law by then Jeff Sessions.

Now our new AG is proving to be just as lack in arrests and prosecutions.

5 posted on 09/28/2019 10:02:02 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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I wonder if the whole impeachment thing is a ruse to distract Trump from the corruption in the Democrat party and the true collusion. Maybe Trump is getting too close to the truth. And as he gets closer, the more aggressive and irrational the Democrats will become.

I realize that this is a conspiracy theory. However, if true, it might destroy the Democrat Party’s credibility and damage them beyond repair.


6 posted on 09/28/2019 10:14:19 AM PDT by dhs12345
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Mark Levin was right...

IT’S TIME TO CALL, EMAIL, AND FAX ALL REPUBLICAN US SENATORS AND DEMAND THAT REPUBLICAN CHAIRMEN IN THE SENATE ISSUE 100 SUBPOENAS.

GO AFTER THEIR THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS.
GO AFTER THEIR FRIENDS.
GO AFTER THEIR RELATIVES.
GO AFTER THEIR ACCOUNTANTS.
GO AFTER THEIR RECORDS.
AND IF THEY DON’T GO FOR IT, HOLD THEM IN CONTEMPT.

From Mark Levin
“And finally, where the hell are the Republican chairman in the Senate? Why aren’t they issuing subpoenas? Why don’t they pretend they’re Elijah Cummings or Jerry Nadler? Or Schiff for that matter? I know it’s an ugly thought, but issue 100 subpoenas. Go after their bank accounts, go after their friends, go after their relatives. Go after their accountants. Go after their records. And if they don’t go for it, hold them in contempt.”

TIME TO STOP PLAYING DEFENSIVE ALL THE TIME AND GO ON THE OFFENSIVE!!!


7 posted on 09/28/2019 10:32:00 AM PDT by Lions Gate
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And what I'm talking about, this, it's Ukrainian collusion, which was large, significant, and proven with Hillary Clinton, with the Democratic National Committee, a woman named Chalupa, with the ambassador, with an FBI agent who's now been hired by George Soros who was funding a lot of it.

Put down the Chalupa!

8 posted on 09/28/2019 10:34:25 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Starman417

Interesting post.

I will have to re read it a few times for a different mind set with all that happened and is being revealed:

“Ukrainian collusion, which was large, significant, and proven with Hillary Clinton, with the Democratic National Committee, a woman named Chalupa, with the ambassador, with an FBI agent who’s now been hired by George Soros, who was funding a lot of it.”


9 posted on 09/28/2019 11:14:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separates satire and Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: Starman417
Interesting post.

I will have to re read it a few times for a different mind set with all that happened and is being revealed:

"Ukrainian collusion, which was large, significant, and proven with Hillary Clinton, with the Democratic National Committee, a woman named Chalupa, with the ambassador, with an FBI agent who's now been hired by George Soros, who was funding a lot of it."


10 posted on 09/28/2019 11:15:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separates satire and Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Put down the Chalupa!

That would be considered “Barkancide”!

11 posted on 09/28/2019 11:15:34 AM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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