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America’s Future: Childless, Godless, Unpatriotic
American Conservative ^ | August 25, 2019 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 08/26/2019 8:16:46 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: Persevero

Should the Wright Brothers have married and just been bicycle repairmen? Or was it a better choice to have stayed single and been the first to prove that you can fly in a heavier than air craft?

There are lots of men that have done great things that never married. If living single was good enough for them, then it’s good enough to me.

And again, how do you know what my calling is?


61 posted on 08/27/2019 3:21:03 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: wastedyears

I agree. Some men are called to singleness. Few. But it is biblical.

Do you think you are in that small minority?

These single men don’t carp on women just keeping them away from beloved toys. They don’t spread doom and hopelessness to others. They are not anti-child and would never discourage men from marrying and having a family of their own. They are men with a singular vision and purpose who strive to improve things, who see themselves as vital and important and contributing.

What is your vision? How do you see yourself taking dominion in this world?


62 posted on 08/27/2019 9:50:07 PM PDT by Persevero (Desmond is not -Amazing- Desmond is -Abused-)
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To: Persevero

I see myself leaving people alone, and being left alone in return.

I grew up in an emotionally poor, almost abusive home. It’s what I know. Should I project that on to a potential partner and potential children?

Why do believe that men should marry and have a family, regardless if they would be fit to be a father?


63 posted on 08/28/2019 4:25:52 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: wastedyears

It is better to leave people alone than abuse them.

But it is better still to heal.

I believe that with the help of God you can become emotionally whole enough to be a husband and father.

It is not required. But you just stop speaking disparagingly Of wives and children. As a man you are to protect and defend them, not put them down.

The effects of any emotional abuse and neglect you suffered are bearing fruit in the sense that you are convinced you cannot be a good husband or father. This is not true. When you cling to these notions you give your abiser(s) the victory.

Heal.


64 posted on 08/28/2019 9:50:35 AM PDT by Persevero (Desmond is not -Amazing- Desmond is -Abused-)
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So I should still have a family, regardless? What if I’m sterile? Am I not really a”man” then, since I cannot produce my own children?

Why do you so vehemently believe that all men must start a family?


65 posted on 08/28/2019 11:59:09 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: wastedyears

It is the usual calling for a man to marry and have kids. That’s the normal way that a good guy has dominion in this world.

There are a few who are not so called. They are rare. They have a special profession that would be unworkable with a wife and kids -
Or they have low to no sexual drive so they can focus their energies on their chosen field. I’d be surprised if this is the case with you but it’s always possible.

What if you are sterile? There is still a woman out there who could benefit by being married to a good man. Perhaps she’s been abandoned with some kids. Perhaps she is sterile too. Maybe you could adopt some special needs kids together. They are in need of good homes.

Why did God ordain that a man is to “be fruitful, and have dominion?” Ultimately I don’t know - it must please Him - and so you are made and so you should do.

If you are really too broken to ever have a marriage or a child, do what you can to build up other families. Don’t knock them down or discourage other men from undertaking.


66 posted on 08/28/2019 3:55:36 PM PDT by Persevero (Desmond is not -Amazing- Desmond is -Abused-)
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27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” Genesis 1


67 posted on 08/28/2019 3:57:24 PM PDT by Persevero (Desmond is not -Amazing- Desmond is -Abused-)
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To: Persevero
It is the usual calling for a man to marry and have kids. That’s the normal way that a good guy has dominion in this world.

I guess I'm not normal then. I just don't want a family. No wife, no fiance, no children. Just me, myself and I.

68 posted on 08/29/2019 12:28:19 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: wastedyears

If you really don’t want it would be contraindicated for you to do anyway.

But you mustn’t discourage those men who are building in this way.


69 posted on 08/29/2019 9:10:05 AM PDT by Persevero (Desmond is not -Amazing- Desmond is -Abused-)
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