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To: John Semmens

Russia lost 27 million people in the war ( at least 10 million military) and killed over a million nazis on the Eastern Front.

Had it not been for Russia fighting against a German war of extermination, pulling the nazis into the interior of Russia and defeating them at the cost of millions killed by war and starvation, there might have been no D Day.
We never in our history can imagine what the Russians have endured nor how it has affected them.

Putin had more creds to be at that D Day ceremony than did Merkel.


10 posted on 06/07/2019 9:14:58 PM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: silverleaf
Russia lost 27 million people in the war ( at least 10 million military) and killed over a million nazis on the Eastern Front.

So?

If they had not given Hitler support he never would have had the power to start the war.

And if they had not been so stupid as to kill off their generals they might have had military leadership worthy of the name. Or maybe not.

pulling the nazis into the interior of Russia and defeating them at the cost of millions killed by war and starvation,

Good grief Charlie Brown you make it sound like they were heroically throwing themselves on a grenade. The starvation started long before their ally attacked them. We kept more from dying by sending them food. Probably a mistake come to think of it.

A country that kills off all of their farmers should starve. It might provoke a bit of thought as to what the heck they are doing.

14 posted on 06/07/2019 10:01:43 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
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To: silverleaf

[Russia lost 27 million people in the war ( at least 10 million military) and killed over a million nazis on the Eastern Front.

Had it not been for Russia fighting against a German war of extermination, pulling the nazis into the interior of Russia and defeating them at the cost of millions killed by war and starvation]


As you quite aptly pointed out, the Russians had no choice. They could fight or literally be killed to the last man, woman and child. The Russians were a pack of wolves who fought not because they were looking to save the world, but because they did a deal with the Nazis, the other pack of wolves. Heck, the Nazis did not even really double-cross the Soviets. The Soviets had a plan to attack the Nazis once they were suitably softened up in their war with the French and the British. Stalin did not expect the Nazis to enjoy a quick victory in the West. That’s why the Soviet plan to attack Germany first never got off the ground - Stalin thought the Germans were still too strong to double-cross.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy


17 posted on 06/08/2019 12:11:25 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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