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Bill To Create, Expand Public Shooting Ranges Passes Senate
guns.com ^ | April 15, 2019 | Chris Eger

Posted on 04/15/2019 3:26:53 PM PDT by PROCON

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To: dp0622

There’s one caveat to submitting a bill to your Rep and expecting it to go anywhere — massive $$$$ contribution.

I worked for a small startup once and we were winning various government R&D contracts. We got an earmark for a research budget once and learned what it takes to get ANY appropriations added to a spending bill. You have to grease their palms big time!


21 posted on 04/15/2019 4:41:43 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Wow.

How naive on my part.


22 posted on 04/15/2019 4:48:12 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: PROCON

Maryland has two great ranges designed to provide an urban feel. They are known as East Baltimore and West Baltimore.


23 posted on 04/15/2019 5:17:39 PM PDT by VietVet876
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To: dp0622

The Missouri Dept of Conservation has established many (like 50 or so) shooting ranges throughout the state. The one nearest me is free. All I have to do is drive there. Some do charge a fee. It is nice to live in a gun-friendly state.


24 posted on 04/15/2019 5:19:13 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: flamberge

“Keep a sharp eye out for flying pigs”

Do you think Hillary will take to her broom over this?


25 posted on 04/15/2019 5:23:34 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Irrelevant to this conversation, I went to a range today in New Jersey. I was alone and felt like killing an hour shooting. I walked in and the counter guy asked me if I was with somebody. I say no and without missing a beat he says I cannot shoot. I ask him why and he starts telling me about the number of range attendants are not enough to watch their groups and also watch me. I show him my open carry permit and he doesn’t care.

I thought that was odd.


26 posted on 04/15/2019 5:34:59 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Trump is the best project/program/portfolio manager in the world!!!!)
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To: dp0622

Only spending bills have to originate in the house.


27 posted on 04/15/2019 5:43:52 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: PROCON

Still has to pass the House.

Will the ‘rats pass it or will they kill the bill due to their hatred of our gun rights?
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I’d be surprised if Pelosi even allows it to come up for a vote. She wouldn’t want to give the NRA something to “score” against her ‘RATS.


28 posted on 04/15/2019 8:12:06 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: VietVet876

Maryland has two great ranges designed to provide an urban feel. They are known as East Baltimore and West Baltimore.
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West Baltimore is where I like to zero my weapons. /sarc


29 posted on 04/15/2019 8:15:28 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: dp0622
How come we constituents don’t try to get more bills to our reps?!!?

Didn’t know a lot of that. Thanks


Well yea, how do you think most bills nowadays are written? It's a bunch of lobbyists and trade groups who write the bill then pay the CongressCritter to put it in the pile. Do you really think more than a handful of them can actually write a legal bill? Half of them can't even read law!
30 posted on 04/16/2019 4:19:11 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: StoneWall Brigade
DP I’ll FReep mail you a list some of great books on the functions of our government the House, Senate, etc. I think you’ll find them interesting as well highly edifying

I wouldn't mind that list as well!
31 posted on 04/16/2019 4:21:54 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Bonemaker

Funny (as in “coincidence”) that you’d mention that.

S. Illinois already has the “World Shooting Complex”, a LARGE facility, run by the State: Basically it is in the middle of nowhere, but only about an hour from downtown St. Louis. I happened to detour by there, curious about it, 10(?) years ago in one of my travels hither, thither, and yon. It was a nice day, but the place was virtually deserted. Some time later I read the Complex was losing money, big time. Ex Gov. Rauner wanted to shut it down. (Business decision.)

Curious, I made it a point to run by several times, in more of my travels, for a number of years. The odds were very stacked against me in swinging by when an event was “on”, but I still marveled at how the place was always deserted.

Apparently the Complex does draw lots of gun enthusiasts... a few times a year. That’s not enough to make it financially viable.

The thing is, I think this facility (not to mention the nearby astonishingly lightly used 19,701 acre Pyramid State Park) could both be at least revenue neutral for the State, if not money makers in the bigger picture, if properly promoted. But, while competent in other areas, IDNR (Illinois Dept. of Natural Resources) has not much of a clue when it comes to marketing what they have in the way of facilities and resources. And that goes doubly so for the rest of the state government!

There are a lot of such lightly used facilities in S. Illinois. A handful of the parks get heavy use during peak times in summer. However, they are the exception, from what I’ve seen, unless things have really changed in recent years. (One obvious exception was the 2017 eclipse: Friends and news articles around the area report it was packed!)

Worse... IDNR can’t properly maintain what they already have, but keep opening up new facilities, buying or otherwise taking on more land, etc.


32 posted on 04/16/2019 5:22:51 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Paul R.

Interesting. While I realize southern Illinois is more like Tennessee politically, it is still screwed by being in Chicago dominated Illinois. A few years back when the trap/skeet governing body was deciding where to move I wrote them a letter imploring them not to move to Illinois because of anti-gun Chicago. I also wrote the same to Cabelas about moving to Hoffman Estates/Cook County. Now they are enjoying a $25/gun and .05 cent per centerfire round extra tax. Dumb bastards all.


33 posted on 04/16/2019 6:45:29 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneow)
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To: PROCON

I am against this bill. Public gun ranges will take the inefficiency of the govt and put it in gun range form. Endless paperwork, restrictions, silly rules, banking hours, and on and on. How about we let people open up private ranges and allow them to succeed or fail on their own merits. States can regulate private ranges. The feds have proven they could screw up a lemonade stand.


34 posted on 04/16/2019 6:54:46 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Svartalfiar

SMH It’s all about $$

NOW everything is beginning to make sense.


35 posted on 04/16/2019 7:45:06 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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