Posted on 12/17/2018 6:30:04 AM PST by marktwain
A new study of violent crime and concealed carry law found no correlation between them. The study compared homicide and violent crime at the state level with changes in concealed carry law over a 30 year period, from 1986 to 2015. During this period there where large changes in the laws regulating the carry of concealed weapons. From the study:
ResultsThe study was published in the Journal of the American College of Surgeons.
During the study period, all states moved to adopt some form of concealed-carry legislation, with a trend toward less restrictive legislation. After adjusting for state and year, there was no significant association between shifts from restrictive to nonrestrictive carry legislation on violent crime and public health indicators. Adjusting further for poverty and unemployment did not significantly influence the results.
Conclusions
This study demonstrated no statistically significant association between the liberalization of state level firearm carry legislation over the last 30 years and the rates of homicides or other violent crime. Policy efforts aimed at injury prevention and the reduction of firearm-related violence should likely investigate other targets for potential intervention.
I’d like to see the study that shows the correlation between CCW and the violent crimes they prevented.
I wonder how he study would be if they just looked at those states which had Shall License for at least ten years. That way we know how things are after people had time to get their guns. In Illinois there were/are lots of restrictions to slow down the permits. I would say that few people that want concealed carry actually have those permits.
Then you have to wait until the criminals get mowed down a few times for the deterrent affect to take hold. I am not sure what the numbers would be. But watching Illinois and Wisconsin, I see that concealed care is generally a good thing. But intercity black neighborhoods have and had guns. And they are less safe now under both types of laws. In other words, black neighborhoods have guns regardless of laws. White neighborhoods get more pistols when the laws allow. But black neighborhoods seem to go after blacks. Whites seem to rarely suffer from violence, even when they are next to a black neighborhood. Theft is an issue but violence is far worse for blacks in or near a black neighborhood than whites.
John Lott says the greatest decreases in violent crime from increases in concealed carry permits happen in urban minority areas.
Seems the good doctors will use the “no correlation” between rates of CCW/lawful guns and crime in any way they wish. Fact is there has been a tremendous decrease in violent crime with a huge increase in lawful carry/possession of arms over the last 30-40 years. How no correlation in the decrease of violent crime per capita with a great increase in lawful arms is past me.
Kinda like saying a decrease in drownings while boating while increase in use of PFDs has no correlation....
Knowing the AMA etc, this will be used to say that increased arms does not make us safer....
The point of framing anything to do with guns as a "public health" issue is to remove such regulations from Constitutional restraint.
One of the first enormous victories of Progressives was to have the courts define "safety and health" as issues the government could address without most Constitutional protections.
The First and Fourth amendments mostly do not apply with mandatory vaccinations.
They also intend to use the medical profession as a strong propaganda force to decrease gun ownership as "unsafe" and a "risk factor".
Those studies are shoddy affairs, as the article mentions.
This study is a breath of sanity, in comparison.
A recent FBI study, noted on FR a little while ago, has made that correlation. Sorry I son’t have the link.
However, when the criminal and the murderer comes to YOU and ME who carry concealed, it makes ALL the difference to our family.
Children from pre-school on are being indoctrinated with this crapola. By the time they are old enough to vote they are total slaves to the meme.
Had a conversation with a lib this weekend, they first off think the 2nd amendment doesn't protect individual rights, only for "militia's, and second, they want to solve mental illness gun crimes by limiting magazine capacity, total ignorance and it's frustrating.
Yeah, I see that, but the outcome will be opposite in my experience. Since there is no positive correlation, then why allow something useless?
It might turn negative and all.
Clear research indicates that indeed, more guns,less crime. They pretty much reject that peer reviewed effort for decades now.
This might be the study you reference:
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-us-2016-2017.pdf/view
Sourced here:
and the recent FR posting (I believe) is here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3708768/posts
Thank you for digging up the references.
Not everyone in the "inner city" is a predator. Many are prey.
When store owners and other typical targets become armed, they become less attractive as targets.
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