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Trump Sides With Farmers In Battle Against Refiners
Oilprice.com ^ | 09-10-2018 | Nick

Posted on 10/09/2018 4:17:49 PM PDT by bananaman22

The Trump administration announced a major policy change in an effort to win back farm country, allowing the year-round sale of a higher concentration of ethanol.

Coinciding with a campaign stop in Iowa, President Trump announced the lifting of the ban of E15 during summer months, a significant win for the corn and ethanol industries. Up until now, E15 cannot be sold during the summer because of smog concerns. Ethanol producers saw their share prices skyrocket on the news.

The decision comes after roughly 18 months of damaging policies to the agricultural industry. Former EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt became public enemy number one for the ethanol industry last year, even as many people in agriculture-heavy states supported Trump, as Pruitt’s agency repeatedly undermined the market for ethanol.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics
KEYWORDS: dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; e15; energy; epa; ethanol; farmers; globalwarminghoax; hydrocarbons; maga; opec; scottpruitt; trump
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To: editor-surveyor

We buy REAL gas if it’s available.


21 posted on 10/09/2018 4:37:25 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: bananaman22

This makes no sense at all. I don’t often disagree with this President but on this he is 100% wrong.


22 posted on 10/09/2018 4:38:48 PM PDT by Boomer (Cheers to the Triump of the Trump Admin.)
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To: bananaman22

Winning!


23 posted on 10/09/2018 4:40:42 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: bananaman22

Instead of siding with farmers or refiners, how about siding with consumers? We want a CHOICE of whether to have that corrosive “fuel” in our vehicles.


24 posted on 10/09/2018 4:41:27 PM PDT by BipolarBob (#meToo Things have gotten so bad that Caitlyn Jenner has memories of Bruce touching her.)
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To: bananaman22

Surprised by this. Our car that is supposed to use the E85 cannot, it gets messed up. Cost us $$$$ to get it fixed.


25 posted on 10/09/2018 4:42:13 PM PDT by madison10
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To: bananaman22

So...the tax cut we got will end up being spent on more fuel for the car since mileage will drop, another lawn mower since the engine life was just cut in half, higher food prices since corn prices will rise. And who knows what other dislocations in the economy will cost Mr. and Mrs. Average American.

Thanks a lot.


26 posted on 10/09/2018 4:42:46 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: ptsal

It does when you’re fighting a trade war with China and farmers were the worst hit at the outset


27 posted on 10/09/2018 4:43:01 PM PDT by steel_resolve (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Boomer

It’s great policy.

The Republican Party has a lock on the oil producing states of Texas, Alaska and Louisiana.

Some of the farm states are not as Republican as the oil states.

This is great for the GOP.


28 posted on 10/09/2018 4:43:19 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: bananaman22
Ethanol should not be required in fuel at all.
29 posted on 10/09/2018 4:43:33 PM PDT by libertylover (Despite government propaganda, I know the difference between a boy and a girl.)
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To: Navy Patriot

“For automotive general service, ethanol is poor in efficiency, causes more pollution and damages engines.”

Yeh, my concern is engines. I’m under the impression that today’s engines are designed for up to 10% ethanol. But, haven’t read whether they can handle 15%. Anyone know the facts about this?


30 posted on 10/09/2018 4:44:09 PM PDT by snoringbear (W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: bananaman22

I’d rather pay them not to produce Ethanol. It would probably be better in the long run.


31 posted on 10/09/2018 4:46:52 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: tiki

What are you talking about? We just had an expensive farm bill. Where did that money go?

Even if that’s not enough, there are other ways to raise capital, including simply revving up the printing presses like they do for everything else.

Nice try, but no sale.


32 posted on 10/09/2018 4:50:28 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Flaming Conservative

https://www.pure-gas.org/maps


33 posted on 10/09/2018 4:51:12 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: snoringbear

Most E10 capable cars have not been adequately tested and certified for E15.

E85 vehicles should be a go.


34 posted on 10/09/2018 4:53:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: snoringbear
Generally, ethanol engines require harder metals with higher corrosion resistance, different compounding of plastics and rubber parts and higher thermal resistance.

Biggest problem with efficiency is that compression ratios that will get better performance from ethanol, cannot be used with appreciable amounts of gasoline in the mix.

35 posted on 10/09/2018 4:53:25 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: bananaman22

Should make Jeff Bezos happy.

2017...Jeff was the 28th largest landowner in the USA.


36 posted on 10/09/2018 4:53:42 PM PDT by moovova ( I hope Associate Justice Kavanaugh is one vindictive SOB.)
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To: Revel

But gotta keep the corn belt farmers happy so they will vote GOP despite the China trade war. Classic case of voter pandering, but hey, I am not smart enough to play 4D chess.


37 posted on 10/09/2018 4:54:04 PM PDT by buckalfa (I was so much older then, but I'am younger than that now.)
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To: bananaman22

Though a bad idea, sounds pretty marginal.
At least no new requirement.
(Maybe all that E85 can be shipped overseas?)


38 posted on 10/09/2018 4:57:10 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: bananaman22

How can they ban E15 but still sell E85?

Who would voluntarily buy E15 except someone with a flexfuel auto?

For the record, Trump was pro-Ethanol when he campaigned in Iowa. I am not going to have an issue with him on a campaign promise that doesn’t have intrinsic moral implications.


39 posted on 10/09/2018 4:58:25 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Paladin2

Thank you!


40 posted on 10/09/2018 4:58:35 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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