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The Five Choices
The Gates of Vienna Blog ^ | 08/28/2018 | Baron Bodissey

Posted on 09/06/2018 8:29:03 AM PDT by Noumenon

The Five Choices

Ten years ago, El Inglés wrote his ground-breaking essay about the dilemma that Western Europe is currently facing, “Surrender, Genocide… or What?”. It made heads explode even among certain of our supposedly “conservative” allies.

Last week we discussed partition, which is a third option.

Now our long-time commenter RonaldB has added two more options in remarks about the fall of Uppsala. He was specifically addressing the situation in Sweden, but his descriptions are equally applicable to all of Western Europe and the UK, with Canada and Australia moving along right behind them. Even the USA will face the same dilemma, at least in some of our major metropolitan areas, within fifteen or twenty years, so this is something we should all be thinking about carefully.

Option #5 is “Genocide”, but I would assume it includes ethnic cleansing, which might be called “Genocide Lite”.

Remember: The most important thing about these options is not whether one or another of them is the one you prefer. There are two important questions to consider (besides the morality of the chosen solution):

1. Is the choice politically possible? For instance, I often hear statements to the effect that “All seditious Muslims must be immediately deported, all the mosques must be closed, and all the globalist elite traitors must be tried and executed.” OK, I hear the suggestion. But it is not politically possible, neither now nor for the foreseeable future. So why bother discussing it?

2. Is the choice viable? That is, even if it is politically possible, would it work? Can it accomplish its goals, or is it almost certain to fail? It’s my contention that partition might be just barely possible in political terms (after all, it was implemented in India in 1947), but it is not viable — it would fail, and fail quickly. Western Europe and India are very different cases.

Here’s what RonaldB had to say:

1. Surrender This is indistinguishable from what they’re doing now. Withdraw the police, allow sharia law, sharia enforcement police, sharia courts to do as they wish, and continue sending in welfare and public assistance, including housing and medical care, for any Muslim from the area who applies for it.

2. Partition Build a wall or impenetrable fence around the area, move any Muslims or immigrants in the surrounding area into the partitioned territory, and leave it alone. The main difference between this and surrender is that people from inside the area will not be allowed into Sweden, and no assistance will be given. They can apply to the EU, Saudi Arabia, or anyone else who wants to give them money. Whether they starve will no longer be a concern.

3. Mass expulsions This will take some real planning, as a place must be found to expel the immigrants to. The Israelis had the right idea: pay a head tax to some local despot for every head he accepts, and don’t concern yourself too much with what happens to them after they get there.

4. A horrific crackdown, completely discarding individual rights A simple military movement will not have much effect, because the organized Muslims can simply assassinate anyone who gets in their way. You would have to have a security apparatus akin to Saddam Hussein’s secret police, or Savak or the British Tans who controlled Ireland. The city would be treated as occupied territory. Unfortunately, the welfare and aid would probably continue under this scenario.

5. Genocide There are so many other ways of handling this that genocide would be profoundly immoral.

Afterword

Those are all the possibilities I can think of. I don’t think there is a possibility of putting a lid on the situation and pretending it’s been settled. The Muslims feel its time to assert their control, so they’re now in the last stages of jihad and aren’t about to pull back for bribes or appeals to reason or civic pride.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: existence; genocide; islam
The Muslims feel it's time to assert their control, so they’re now in the last stages of jihad and aren’t about to pull back for bribes or appeals to reason or civic pride.

You must make a choice, or it will be made for you. No one has a Get Out Of History Free card. No one.

1 posted on 09/06/2018 8:29:03 AM PDT by Noumenon
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To: Noumenon; Travis McGee
FR's own Matt Bracken (Travis McGee) wrote a more expansive article on this subject which was quite brilliant. I encourage all Freepers to read it.

https://gatesofvienna.net/2015/11/tet-take-two-islams-2016-european-offensive/

2 posted on 09/06/2018 8:33:40 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Noumenon

The first question should be: “How do we stop making the problem worse?”

The answers there are simple and are viable. (1) Put an absolute stop to new asylum claims and to acceptance of new refugees. (2) Put an absolute stop to illegal immigration, sending illegals who attempt to enter (whether the USA, Sweden, the EU, or wherever) all the way back to where they started. (3) Deport all illegals, no exceptions. (4) Start a PR campaign in support of the rule of law to build support for deporting all illegals.

After following 1-4, the problem will no longer be worsening at a rapid rate. At that point, you can deal with the response in a more thoughtful manner. (5) Start phasing out welfare for immigrants, and in general for those who see welfare as a lifestyle. (6) Provide incentives for the remaining invaders to voluntarily return home (support this with a PR campaign on why it benefits their home countries to receive these productive, motivated individuals back).


3 posted on 09/06/2018 8:43:25 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pollster1

The nightmare is going to get worse


4 posted on 09/06/2018 10:00:45 AM PDT by genghis
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To: genghis

And the worse the nightmare gets, the uglier the solution will be.


5 posted on 09/06/2018 10:05:14 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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