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Emirates is building a giant vertical farm to feed airline passengers
Eyewitness News ^ | August 16, 2018 | Alex Gray, World Economic Forum

Posted on 08/20/2018 5:54:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: SamAdams76

That sounds good..can’t remember the name or author?


41 posted on 08/20/2018 7:34:08 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Deaf Smith
Maybe he's on the top floor....eating some of the crops and providing fertilizer? 😂
42 posted on 08/20/2018 7:37:03 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: SamAdams76

Good Lord, that sounds more grimdark than Warhammer 40k that has planets like Armageddon and nostromo and those planets when you read about em are places that cannot be described as a shithole, they are worse than that.


43 posted on 08/20/2018 7:50:58 PM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: Right Wing Assault

The hydroponic fertilizer liquid has to be replaced periodically. Where do you think that goes? You really think we’re ignorant?


44 posted on 08/20/2018 7:59:49 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The world’s population would quit growing so rapidly if we quit feeding the middle east. If they’re gonna make all the babies they should have to feed them.


45 posted on 08/20/2018 8:03:37 PM PDT by Tell It Right (God's truth is bigger than Darwin's lies.)
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To: arrogantsob

Hard to beat the Hoosier maters I’m used to.


46 posted on 08/20/2018 8:04:35 PM PDT by digger48
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To: mountainlion
I have never met a third world person who experiences food scarcity express concern about fat content, high carbohydrates, or calories in excess? As a matter of fact if you give them 25 pounds of cooking oil to fry things in, you are a God and will be treated as such.

As for salads, that's a white privelidge Amy Winehouse kinda thing.

47 posted on 08/20/2018 8:22:21 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: Mogger
Thank you, for the kind remark.

It's funny you're mentioning an old book that contains very useful tech information that is very applicable in our contemporary times. I have a dozen old books that I acquired on purpose or rescued from being discarded that have served me well. In fact, they have been key in several hundred million $$$ of process design work relating to industrial water treatment over the decades. When I retired, I finally relented and got rid of most of my tech library but kept these dozen books. Hauling a thousand pounds of books when I moved was a real pain!

One of the books though is just a fun one (for me anyway) having to do with residential passive solar design written by Mazeris (sp). No fun doing this living in GA but was a blast using SW architecture and adobe construction common to NM and AZ.

48 posted on 08/20/2018 8:23:56 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: Fungi
“no agricultural runoff,” Really? So what exactly is in the water that is fed to them? It’s liquid fertilizer, and it is not all absorbed, so there is “run-off.”

Every technical term in this article should be followed by a lengthy parenthetical explanation / definition - especially those technical terms which sound like ordinary terms and which lay readers will falsely assume they already understand.

"Agricultural run-off" can't happen in a hydroponic set-up because "agricultural run-off" is DEFINED as the UNCONTROLLED run-off of surface waters (incl. excess fertilizer and irrigation water) from LAND.

In a hydroponic set-up, everything is precisely regulated, and excess liquid RE-CAPTURED.

Regards,

49 posted on 08/20/2018 9:10:35 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Which it was not. Sticky specifics—always read the fine print. So this is not “agricultural?” Then what is it? Agriculture by another name, still growing a product for the masses, no matter by what name or mode of growth.


50 posted on 08/20/2018 9:16:46 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: alexander_busek
Oh yes, define “re-captured.” To do what and where? At some point the liquid has to renewed, used and ultimately disposed.
51 posted on 08/20/2018 9:18:58 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

so....the way they’re claiming ‘no fertilizer’ is to call it “nutrient-rich water”. got it. Cute. but oh, so, misleading.

four most common problems with hydro verticals: bacteria, algae, black mold, and the enormous energy cost equally lighting the entire height of the planting for 18 hrs/day.

Then there’s the equipment: man-lifts to get to the top, constant pruning to keep one main vine on tomatoes, hand-pollination since no bugs (bees) will make it inside. (If bugs do make it inside, dollar to donuts there’ll be hornworms or the arab equivalent and those will have to be hand-picked off). Not to mention the leaching over time of pvc and assorted poly tubing exposed to acidic ‘nutrients’. And then there’s all that ventilation equipment - the hothouse will be both hot and very humid (the discharge of which will create its own local microclimate), bordering on human heat tolerance for workers and impacting mechanical tolerances for moisture and heat.

Lots of challenges...let’s see what they do.


52 posted on 08/20/2018 9:44:55 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I mean there are pros to doing it this way.

The cons are loss of power, loss of water, fire in the structure damaging things. Infestations of things could still occur even indoors.


53 posted on 08/21/2018 12:32:33 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DouglasKC
I read it as a kid. I went through a period where I read every single science fiction book that was on the shelves of my local library. So a lot of those stories stick in my mind but I have no idea who wrote them or what the titles were.

A few years back, I was reading "Moon is a Harsh Mistress" and realized I had read that also during that period.

54 posted on 08/21/2018 6:13:06 AM PDT by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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To: SamAdams76

I found an article that describes a few books like that.

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/j-g-ballards-high-rise-feared-skyscraper-living/#!


55 posted on 08/21/2018 7:13:46 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Fungi
Which it was not. Sticky specifics—always read the fine print. So this is not “agricultural?” Then what is it? Agriculture by another name, still growing a product for the masses, no matter by what name or mode of growth.

Hey, Lady! I didn't author this article! Nor do I necessarily endorse it. I was merely attempting to help others make some sense of it.

Regards,

56 posted on 08/21/2018 8:44:55 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Fungi
Oh yes, define “re-captured.” To do what and where? At some point the liquid has to renewed, used and ultimately disposed.

Would you nit-picking stop there? If I defined "re-captured" by saying, e.g., "the controlled redirection of the nutrient fluid blah-blah-blah," you would then probably demand that I define "controlled" or "nutrient."

As I pointed out in my previous posting: I am not the author of this article, nor do I endorse it. My initial posting was intended merely to help some people understand.

Regards,

57 posted on 08/21/2018 8:47:33 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Planes fly seven or eight miles up, just how tall is this vertical farm?

58 posted on 08/21/2018 8:50:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: digger48

I used to have a garden and grew butterbeans and tomatoes.
I am not in a position to do that anymore. A friend brought me some tomatoes from her garden.

Oh, man they were good. Sweet as an apple.


59 posted on 08/21/2018 11:25:02 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: arrogantsob

Health reasons in recent years keep me from having my 1200 sf garden any more. Used to have a couple dozen mater plants of different varieties so they didn’t all mature at once and some were better for canning, whwle some were better for sammiches and others for just eating like an apple.

My daughter is here from FL with a friend and they are amazed at the difference.

fortunately, there’s a huge produce stand just a mile down the road from me.


60 posted on 08/21/2018 12:05:30 PM PDT by digger48
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