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Four Homemade Submachine Guns Confiscated in Sydney, Australia, 2018
Gun Watch ^ | 14 August, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/13/2018 8:44:22 AM PDT by marktwain


Four homemade submachine guns found during a drug raid in Waterloo, Australia.

Imager from twitter.com/7newssydney:

When extreme restrictions are placed on the acquisition of legal firearms, one of the easiest repeaters to make at home or in small workshops is the submachine gun. The four homemade submachine guns shown above were discovered with a number of other firearms, drugs, and 2.75 million Australian dollars, about two million in U.S. dollars. From facebook.com/nswpoliceforce:
Acting on information received, Strike Force Raptor, assisted by the Drug and Firearms Squad, executed a search warrant a storage facility at Waterloo in the early hours of Wednesday (30 May 2018).

During the search, police located 1.15kg of cocaine, 1.1kg of ice, 26L of GBL, 13 firearms, including five sub-machine guns, two semi-automatic pistols, and two revolvers; ammunition, a silencer, and $2.75 million cash.

The firearms will undergo forensic and ballistic examination.

Just after 9am yesterday (Thursday 31 May 2018), Strike Force Raptor arrested a 34-year-old man after he arrived at Sydney Airport from New Zealand.

He was taken to Kogarah Police Station and charged with three counts of supply prohibited drug, possess ammunition, deal in proceeds of crime, resist arrest, participate in a criminal group, and aggravated firearms offences.

He was refused bail to appear at Sutherland Local Court later today (Friday 1 June 2018).
 With that kind of money available, the fabrication of guns and the availability of ammunition on the black market is easy to understandable.

The most famous case of organized crime fabricating submachine guns in Australia is that of Angelo Koots. Koots was a jeweler who made copies of the MAC-11. He was caught in a sting operation and convicted in 2013. His copies were said to be of as good quality as the originals. He claimed that he had made a hundred of the guns selling them for up to $15,000 each, with two magazines and suppressor included.  Koots was sentenced to six years in jail, with parole possible after four years. $15,000 is on the extreme high end for a black market gun.

One of the Koots guns was recently confiscated in a raid in Sydney on 10 April, 2018. In that raid, less than $100,000 ($75,000 U.S.) was confiscated.

Such firearms are easy to make, taking only a couple of days each once the first one has been made and jigs fabricated.  It is probable that Koots spent less than a year's worth of labor making the hundred guns, which may have brought in 1.5 million dollars from organized gangs. There are many talented fabricators who would be willing to work for a small fraction of that amount.

A different black market submachine gun design, the "Carlo", is frequently encountered in Israel, made in small shops. Those guns sell for about $800-$1,000 on the black market.

In the United States, because of the extreme regulation of submachine guns, original, legal, MAC-11 submachine guns cost about $9,000.

Homemade, or small shop submachine guns are made all over the world where extreme gun restrictions are in place. They are commonly found in the Australia, Brazil, Canada, India, Israel, and the Philippines.

©2018 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: australia; banglist; homemade; submachine
When guns are difficult to get legally, criminals make their own.
1 posted on 08/13/2018 8:44:22 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The crime rate must be high down under.


2 posted on 08/13/2018 8:46:43 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: marktwain
Whew. Glad the 3-D thing is on hold. Anyone could make a gun then ! 🙀. Yeah, I know a competent person with a few decent tools can make one without 3-D'ing it. 🍿🍻👹🇺🇸
3 posted on 08/13/2018 8:47:02 AM PDT by rktman (Enlis ted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: marktwain

And make plenty of moolah doing so.


4 posted on 08/13/2018 8:47:25 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Travis McGee

MAC-11 ping.


5 posted on 08/13/2018 8:49:52 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: marktwain
Koots was a jeweler who made copies of the MAC-11. ... His copies were said to be of as good quality as the originals.

Which ain't sayin' much...

6 posted on 08/13/2018 8:51:03 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Biggirl
The crime rate must be high down under.

The crime rate is pretty low in Australia. I have spent about six months there, and the stats are available on the Internet.

7 posted on 08/13/2018 8:57:08 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Agreed. And they do not have to be expensive Olympic grade target pistols or rifles or shotguns or family heirlooms or anything else the gun grabbers want to confiscate from the law abiding and melt down into beer can making material as part of their charade on dealing with the criminal or tragic misuse of firearms (which it is not in reality, of course).


8 posted on 08/13/2018 9:08:14 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: marktwain

Those look like TEC-9 copies.


9 posted on 08/13/2018 9:15:31 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: akalinin

Hard to be sure. There are a lot of simple blowback sub-gun designs all over the world.

The Tec-9 is similar.


10 posted on 08/13/2018 9:19:22 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

If I were to build an illegal SMG, it would be a STEN gun or something with LOTS of parts availability. Of course it would be clumsy and the magazines SUCK, but still operational.


11 posted on 08/13/2018 9:24:58 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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To: DCBryan1

Quite a few semi-auto versions of submachine guns are made in the U.S. out of parts kits.


12 posted on 08/13/2018 9:30:14 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

***Koots was a jeweler who made copies of the MAC-11.... His copies were said to be of as good quality as the originals. ***

“Daddy would have gotten us UZIS.”-Night of the Comet


13 posted on 08/13/2018 9:46:52 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: marktwain

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14 posted on 08/13/2018 10:36:26 AM PDT by 2harddrive (Go to www.CodeIsFreeSpeech.com for 10 FREE 3D-printer gun blueprints!)
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To: marktwain

This is an example of why the whole 3D printing controversy is plain stupid.


15 posted on 08/13/2018 3:48:07 PM PDT by suthener (Et)
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To: suthener
This is an example of why the whole 3D printing controversy is plain stupid.

Exactly.

People have been making guns outside of formal factories for centuries.

They will continue to do so.

16 posted on 08/13/2018 5:34:06 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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