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Drilling Rifles & other Combination Guns
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 8/6/2018 | J Hines

Posted on 08/06/2018 5:17:14 AM PDT by w1n1

Have you ever wished or thought of having a rifle and a shotgun combination?, all in one. Yes, these combination drilling guns do exist.
Though they are not popular, it may be something to consider for a survival gun.
These combination guns will give you a glimpse of options to consider.

Springfield Armory M6 Scout Combination Gun
The Springfield Armory M6 Scout is a multipurpose firearm, combining rifle and shotgun. This discontinued weapon was once made with a .22 LR or a .22 Hornet barrel over a 3-inch magnum .410-bore shotgun barrel.

Savage Arms Model 24C-DL Combination Gun
The Savage 24 is actually a single shot rifle barrel sitting on top of a single shot shotgun barrel. A selector switch allows you to quickly choose the barrel of choice. This rifle could be chambered in .22 LR, .22 Magnum, .357 Magnum or .357 Maximum, .223 Remington and .30-30 Winchester with a .410-bore, 20-gauge or 12-gauge shotgun barrel underneath.

Baikal IZH 94 Combination Rifle
This is a pretty good all around gun. This combo gun is a 12 gauge shotgun, over a .223 rifle. This would be a good wilderness, or survival gun.
Many sportsmen and shooters have referred to the Baikal IZH 94 Combination Gun as the "poor man's drilling." See the full description of these drilling combination rifles here.


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1 posted on 08/06/2018 5:17:14 AM PDT by w1n1
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To: w1n1
Rossi Circuit Judge.

Judge handguns.

Bond Derringer.

All shoot .45LC and .410

2 posted on 08/06/2018 5:36:14 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: w1n1
Wonder how many fine European drillings have been destroyed by filthy ignorant local governments after gun turn-ins?


3 posted on 08/06/2018 5:41:13 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: w1n1

Always wanted the .22 /20gauge Savage as a kid in the 60s. It seemed to cover so many possibilities. You would only need 1 gun for everything

The saying goes “Beware the man with one gun, he knows how to use it.”

I, should pose no fear then.


4 posted on 08/06/2018 5:49:50 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: w1n1

I had a Tikka .243 over 12 gauge. The rear sight flipped up out of the rib. It gave a great picture and was adjustable.

I doubt a scope could have been mounted but the iron sights were fine.

One of those, I really wish I still had.


5 posted on 08/06/2018 5:51:57 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Mogger
Rossi Circuit Judge.

Judge handguns.

Bond Derringer.

All shoot .45LC and .410

Add the S&W Governor series.

All have fully rifled barrels. Not conducive to effective wing shooting.

6 posted on 08/06/2018 5:57:51 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: w1n1
Since we're always fair about all this kind of stuff, gotta give some credit to J Hines today in his blog.

This is an exception from most of the stuff he fishes up, it's actually of practical interest and might be helpful to someone out there who's on a budget...

See? We're always fair about stuff around here.

Nice article... post the whole thing?

7 posted on 08/06/2018 6:15:12 AM PDT by OKSooner (Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE): The 1200 pound gorilla...)
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To: w1n1

Wouldn’t a drilling, by definition, have three barrels?

Two barrels is a zweiling...


8 posted on 08/06/2018 6:35:41 AM PDT by null and void (Equality is important, but quality is paramount.)
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To: Vaquero

.22/20 gauge...
18”,,,I think.
Provisions for rounds in stock
and plastic breakdown case.
Yes,I got one.


9 posted on 08/06/2018 6:36:43 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: null and void

Shhhhh... don’t make the author actually do research.


10 posted on 08/06/2018 6:39:52 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I care more that FReepers get it right.


11 posted on 08/06/2018 6:42:56 AM PDT by null and void (Equality is important, but quality is paramount.)
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To: Big Red Badger

Nice!


12 posted on 08/06/2018 7:06:41 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: w1n1
Xcrew drilling rifles! I prefer drilling handguns.


13 posted on 08/06/2018 7:08:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The New York Times is so openly dishonest, even their crossword puzzles lie.)
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To: Bonemaker
Granddad got a Drilling in a trade. Side by side; 8mm & 16 ga with a shotgun bead site.

At age 10 I missed a doe at 40 ft, shot under her.

Never saw another side by side at gunshows.

14 posted on 08/06/2018 7:13:48 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Bonemaker

My father bought one in Mexico about forty years ago for $150. The two top barrels are 16 gaauge and the lower barrel is some kind of weird european millimeter rifle.


15 posted on 08/06/2018 7:56:38 AM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: gigster
Did I write gaauge??
16 posted on 08/06/2018 8:00:41 AM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: null and void

“Wouldn’t a drilling, by definition, have three barrels?
Two barrels is a zweiling…” [null and void, post 8]

Americans have misunderstood this German word for a long time, because it looks like an English word they think they understand.

Some decades ago, American Rifleman magazine printed a question sent in to its Dope Bag column: “Could you tell me what calibers and gauges are available in European drillings?”

The answer bespoke just what null and void posted about three-barrel and two-barrel guns, and further informed Rifleman readers that a four-barrel gun would be a “vierling.”

Then about eight or ten technical drawings of variously-arranged combination-gun muzzles were printed, each with its German name, “buchse” meaning “rifle” and “flinte” meaning “shotgun.” A tongue-twisting bunch of multi-syllable German terms followed, for each drawing. The only one still in my memory is “doppelbockbuchse”, indicating a double rifle, but of what arrangment I forget. Some names were longer.


17 posted on 08/06/2018 8:17:37 AM PDT by schurmann
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To: null and void

Never heard Them called “Drilling.”
Never.


18 posted on 08/06/2018 8:21:24 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: Yo-Yo; Mogger

“Rossi Circuit Judge.
Judge handguns.
Bond Derringer.
All shoot .45LC and .410
Add the S&W Governor series.
All have fully rifled barrels. Not conducive to effective wing shooting.” [Yo-Yo, post 6 - responding to Mogger, post 2]

Be warned that the Taurus and S&W revolvers were limited to standard-pressure 45 Colt rounds, in early versions at least. No Ruger-only nor Contender-only nor Freedom Arms overpressure loads. Fortunately, even in original or cowboy action loadings, 45 Colt is a decent self-defense cartridge.

Much of the publicity from manufacturers of these handguns has been aimed at the self-defense market, but in actuality they are an imaginative solution for hiker defense against poisonous snakes, when loaded with 410 shells firing Nr 8 shot or similar sizes. Not many hikers are good enough with a handgun to hit a snake at strike-safe ranges (scarcely beyond point blank), firing pistol round with a single projectile. 410 shells carry a usefully larger shot charge than specialty shotshells in handgun chamberings, of larger shot size; they are cheaper too, and reloadable.

Thus, back-country travelers going afield in snake country are better equipped with a Judge or Governor loaded with 410 shells, than other revolvers or auto pistols.


19 posted on 08/06/2018 8:48:29 AM PDT by schurmann
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To: yarddog

“One of those, I really wish I still had”

Boating accident?


20 posted on 08/06/2018 8:59:43 AM PDT by Figment
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