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Democrats And Media Move The Goalposts On Border Separations In Record Time(in 180 deg flip)
Red State ^ | June 20, 2018 | Bonchie

Posted on 06/21/2018 4:41:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs

Who could of possibly seen this coming?

President Trump signed an EO today that essentially allows families to be detained together in order to stop the issue of separating children from parents. This, we were assured, was the primary concern of the most virtuous among us who have driven a news cycle of hysteria the last month.

Furthermore, this was a situation so dire they said, so terrible, that the President needed to simply ignore the law and stop separations on his own

So what happens when he actually does what they want?

Nick Riccardi ✔ @NickRiccardi NYT reports that, rather than separating children from parents, the Trump administration will hold children indefinitely with their parents, violating a court settlement and inevitably triggering a legal challenge . 12:39 PM - Jun 20, 2018

Wait, I thought there was no legal reason for Trump to be separating families at the border and it was wholly his fault? Odd.

'Sources Say' is Greek for 'Fake News' @NolteNC But the media told me there was no law separating families. 3:31 PM - Jun 20, 2018 · Boone, NC

You can expect the media, the same media who told us family separations were THE issue, to now champion legal challenges to the President’s EO that keeps families together…because of course they will.

@AaronBlake So basically, it will solve this problem in a way it knows may be struck down, rather than just relaxing the zero-tolerance policy 12:42 PM - Jun 20, 2018

There’s the mask slipping. This was always about catch and release being forced to return, not concern for kids spending 20 days in well equipped HHS shelters before going to live with family members in the interior.

@StevenTDennis Durbin spitting🔥over Trump's executive order: "His new Executive Order criminalizes asylum-seekers and seeks to indefinitely detain their children. Locking up whole families is no solution at all." Asks Rs to "call for an end to this monstrous Trump Administration policy." 4:59 PM - Jun 20, 2018

Surprised? Of course you aren’t. If you had under 12 on the total number of hours it’d take for the Democrats and media figures to decide that ending family separations isn’t a good thing, collect your winnings at the window.

This should be a lesson to some conservatives who let themselves become pawns in this battle. I think most of their concerns were sincere but you can challenge a policy logically and with real solutions without playing into the hyperbole of the Democrat/media alliance.

Anyone that thought this was all good faith outrage from the left was kidding themselves. I’ll leave you with this nugget of truth from RedState writer Brandon Morse…

@TheBrandonMorse See, folks. Democrats didn't care under Obama, and they don't care now. This isn't about the kids. With Democrats, it's never really ever about the kids 4:20 PM - Jun 20, 2018


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: childseparation; illegals; immigration; trump
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3-2-1 to Dems suing Trump admin to stop keeping families together.

Recall all Dems backward flips on Trump and NK.

Call Kim bad names : Bad
Return Threats with threats :bad
Meet with Kim : Bad
Call off meeting with Kim : bad
Meeting back on :Bad
Complement Kim: Bad

Notice that pattern?

1 posted on 06/21/2018 4:41:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs
Trump makes a move that forces Libs to show their true face and "rationale" for any of their protests/complains - it has nothing to do with what they claim....

Notice the pattern?

Some are upset that Trump "caved" but he knew exactly what he was doing....and it wasn't caving....

2 posted on 06/21/2018 4:46:36 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: sickoflibs

I think the Democrat party died in 2016, and Hillary brought it on. They’re all a bunch of nuts and all about grabbing and holding onto power. And hate. Lots and lots of hate.


3 posted on 06/21/2018 4:50:25 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: sickoflibs
cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/02/21/toddlers.temper.tantrums.parenting/index.html

Why toddlers throw temper tantrums

Toddlers' outbursts are as normal a biological response to anger and frustration as a yawn is to fatigue

4 posted on 06/21/2018 4:53:14 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Spygate's clock began in 2015 - what did President Obama know and when did he know it)
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To: trebb
The issue is never the issue.

Stalinists lie. Always

5 posted on 06/21/2018 4:53:43 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Spygate's clock began in 2015 - what did President Obama know and when did he know it)
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To: trebb
RE:”Some are upset that Trump “caved” but he knew exactly what he was doing....and it wasn't caving.... “

See comments going both ways here.

The MSM is celebrating Trump's big surrender and flip (their big victory) while starting to talk about how Trump's keeping families together order is illegal after all, while still calling him a liar for claiming it was.

I am in wait and see mode......how it plays out...how he plays it..

6 posted on 06/21/2018 4:54:12 AM PDT by sickoflibs ('Equal protection' only applies to illegals not you!)
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To: sickoflibs

Just wait for the outrage when one of these little beggers gets buggered by one or more of their ‘parents’ while in custody! You know it’s coming...


7 posted on 06/21/2018 4:57:14 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Apparently I voted demoncrat for 40 years. They all wore 'R' jerseys! 'R'atpublicans!)
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To: simpson96
I agree....Hillary killed the Democrat party. And her minions, like Comey, Obama, Podesta, Rice, etc etc....have exposed the Party as Power Mongers.

The chickens are coming home to roost.

8 posted on 06/21/2018 4:58:33 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: sickoflibs

Yesterday Rush predicted this is exactly what would happen - the issue is not the issue, attacking Trump is the issue.


9 posted on 06/21/2018 4:59:18 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: simpson96
"....They’re all a bunch of nuts and all about grabbing and holding onto power. And hate. Lots and lots of hate..."

A big, BIG YES!

The DemonRat plantation owners just want their slaves, plus cheap gardeners and maids. They don't care about the kids at all; only about getting their open borders back.

The fair weather conservatives must take notice of this if they honestly care.

10 posted on 06/21/2018 4:59:59 AM PDT by Sa-teef
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To: simpson96
RE:”I think the Democrat party died in 2016, and Hillary brought it on. They’re all a bunch of nuts and all about grabbing and holding onto power. And hate. Lots and lots of hate.”

Disagree, it was Obama and his re-election in 2012.
(and partially in 2008)

That 2012 is when Obama felt safe to reveal himself fully as a radical leftist ideologue who acted as ‘The progressive end justifies ANY means’

Unfortunately in 2008 and 2012 the GOP put up RINO/Pu...y candidates who were terrified of Dems and the MSM.

11 posted on 06/21/2018 5:01:37 AM PDT by sickoflibs ('Equal protection' only applies to illegals not you!)
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To: sickoflibs

This was completely expected. I expected it. I talked about it to my friends. I was sorely disappointed that Trump caved on this one.


12 posted on 06/21/2018 5:04:20 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: sickoflibs

In fact, Trump caved like a deep state republican. It’s the ol’ Lucy and football thing.

He had to have seen it coming, so there is something going on here we are not aware of, I suspect.


13 posted on 06/21/2018 5:05:48 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: sickoflibs
Who could of possibly seen this coming?

Who could have possibly seen this coming?

Professional wordsmiths.....spit.

14 posted on 06/21/2018 5:06:34 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: sickoflibs

I need at least N=12, not just 6...

:)


15 posted on 06/21/2018 5:07:27 AM PDT by EEGator
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RE:”In fact, Trump caved like a deep state republican. It’s the ol’ Lucy and football thing.”

Yes and no.

He caved regarding rhetoric about separating the families to deter other families from trying to sneak in.
But it was that same rhetoric that the left/Dems/MSM used a HUGE club to beat with getting Trump's family, even Ted Cruz and most Republicans to beg Trump to do something about it.

In practice its not clear that this order changes anything except getting Dems to oppose ‘Keeping families together’.

Time will tell.

16 posted on 06/21/2018 5:13:32 AM PDT by sickoflibs ('Equal protection' only applies to illegals not you!)
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To: Stosh

Let them attack. By taking a somewhat moderate stance here, POTUS has forced the democrats even further to the left to oppose him. By the time the midterms roll around, the democrats will literally be asking voters to vote for higher taxes, vote for mandated insurance, and vote for unchecked borders. There is, and has been a pattern, to the way DJT operates. Last night CNN was running a Kyron that said the following:

TRUMP FLIPS ON FAMILY SEPARATIONS, SIGNING AN EXECUTIVE ORDER,THAT WASN’T NEEDED,TO END HIS OWN ADMINISTRATION’S POLICY.

I mean how cringe-worthy is that? What does the average person trying to read that think? How desperate does it make CNN, and the MSN look to try and squeeze THREE digs into the lower 3rd of their screen?


17 posted on 06/21/2018 5:15:53 AM PDT by NImerc
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To: sickoflibs

Good point. It speaks to why I hope there is a reason we’re not aware of, and this sacrifice of a bishop leads us at least to check, if not checkmate.


18 posted on 06/21/2018 5:29:45 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: sickoflibs

The left treats Trump like the muslim world treats Israel. They do not believe in the right of Trump or Israel to exist.

It drives the muslim world absolutely insane that in the center of the muslim world there is a small Jewish state that for decades of trying, they can’t get rid of. It isn’t supposed to be like that if their god was all powerful.

The dems are the same way with Trump. He should not have been elected. It was impossible in their mind. The election was rigged, it was Hillary’s turn and Trump was a fool. Then the impossible happened, Trump won. Since then they have acted with the same insane mindset that the muslims have against Israel. They are currently in the process of destroying themselves and their country just to rid themselves of the impossible thing.

As for what Trump did yesterday, only time will tell if this is a piece of a bigger plan. You are correct in saying that no matter what Trump does, the left will claim it is bad, reckless, stupid, foolish, etc... For the most part, Trump plays with then like a cat and a laser pointer.


19 posted on 06/21/2018 5:31:31 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Paine in the Neck

Coulda works best.


20 posted on 06/21/2018 5:37:00 AM PDT by Paladin2
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