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To: Voption
Concurrently, I’ve grown to adopt more cognitive-based outlooks and am highly intrigued with quantum mechanical processes as potentially being the physical substrate for human consciousness.

I have read some speculation in that regard. Not sure what to make of it.

Peterson’s skill, in my opinion, is to bridge the gap, just enough for my liking, between the physical and the metaphysical, in an extremely “poetic” yet utterly rational manner.

He definitely seems to have a talent for articulating these sort of ideas in a more easily comprehensible fashion.

In the meantime, before I die, my goal is mind my own business, play well with others, be a good person, and try to secure a stable environment for my grand-daughter to grow up in.

Pretty much the same boat for me, though I fear we are losing that fight. I see insanity all around me, and even seemingly reasonable people are sometimes given over to it.

The Greatest-Generation, sacrificed & died, so I could have untold wealth & opportunities showered upon me, in comfort and security, just for practically showing-up

I've been thinking for the past several months that the Millennials could do with a good dose of 1940s hardship and sacrifice. I think hard times makes better people, while softness and comfort make the worst kind.

32 posted on 04/17/2018 6:51:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’d suggest this to start:

Sir Roger Penrose
“Consciousness and the foundations of physics”
May 2015
https://youtu.be/eJjydSLEVlU
(1:27:50)

“The introduction of quantum mechanics in the early 20th Century led many physicists to question the “Newtonian” type of picture of an objective deterministic physical reality that had been previously regarded as an essential background to a fully scientific picture of the world. Quantum measurement, as described in standard theory however, requires a fundamental indeterminism, and issues such as Bell non-locality cause basic difficulties with a picture of objective reality that is consistent with the principles of relativity. Accordingly, many philosophers of science have felt driven to viewpoints according to which “reality” itself takes on subjective qualities, seemingly dependent upon the experiences of conscious beings.”

“My own position is an essentially opposite one, and I argue that conscious experience itself arises from a particular objective feature of physical law. This, however, must go beyond our current understanding of the laws of quantum processes and their relation to macroscopic phenomena. I argue that this objective feature has to do with implications of Einstein’s general theory of relativity and, moreover, must lie beyond the scope of a fully computational universe.”
Roger Penrose


35 posted on 04/17/2018 8:01:35 AM PDT by Voption
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