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WV: Second Amendment Protection in Parking Lots Goes to Governor
Gun Watch ^ | 14 March, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 03/13/2018 10:55:17 AM PDT by marktwain



On 9 March, 2018, HB 4187 passed the West Virginia senate, 32-1, with 1 senator absent. The bill insures that busnesses may not ban privately owned firearms from vehicles in company parking lots. Summary From HB 4187:

The purpose of this bill is to create the “Business Liability Protection Act”. The bill includes the right to limit possession of firearms on certain premises and definitions. It also provides for misdemeanor criminal offense and penalty. It prohibits employers from certain specific actions against a person when that person possesses a firearm legally, including a condition of employment. The bill provides a duty of care of public and private employers and provides for immunity from liability. The bill authorizes the Attorney General to enforce this statute, including the right to sue or seek injunctive relief; and seek civil fines.
The bill had two amendments added in the senate. From wvgazettemail.com:
In the Senate, legislation that would stop private businesses and associations from prohibiting guns in vehicles parked on their property advanced to passage stage on Friday, after the Senate adopted two amendments Thursday (HB 4187).

One change requires that firearms in vehicles be hidden out of view of passers-by. The second clarifies that the right to have firearms in vehicles does not apply to vehicles owned or leased to a private business or association.

The amendments were adopted on a voice vote, without debate.
The only Senator to vote Nay was Corey Palumbo, (D- Kanawa, 17). Palumbo only has a 43% rating from the NRA. He voted against Constitutional Carry (HB 4145 in 2016). From wvlegislature.gov vote on HB 4187, 32 Yea, 1 Nay, 1 Absent.

22 states now have similar bills that protect the right to bear arms inside of privately owned transportation. The point is clear. Most people move plaes in their privately owned vehicles. If they are banned from having arms in those vehicles, their exercise of Second Amendment rights is effectively chilled.


The bill is popular. There was little time to get it through the House, which had to concur with the Senate, because of the amendments. But the House concurred with the Senate on March 10th, the last day of the session. HB 4187 is now engrossed, and will be sent to Governor Jim Justice for signature. While HB 4187 passed with veto proof margins, the legislature is scheduled to adjourn.  Only a simple majority is sufficient to override a veto, but the legislature will not be in session to do so.

Governor Justice has an A rating from the NRA. It is likely he will sign the bill.



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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; parkinglot; secondamendment; wv
More incremental restoration of Second Amendment rights.
1 posted on 03/13/2018 10:55:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Big Jim should be WVa’s next Senator. He would crush the fraud.


2 posted on 03/13/2018 11:02:11 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: marktwain

Yep, a step in the right direction. However, I would like to see a liability on any private property owner, who prohibits a CCW holder from carrying should that CCW holder receive injury from a criminal act.


3 posted on 03/13/2018 11:06:41 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: marktwain

Hell, we even have the parking lot “safe haven” provision in the rat ass state of illannoy.


4 posted on 03/13/2018 11:36:58 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: arrogantsob

This rule needs to spread to all Federal government parking lots. The VA has sites where the local director alone can implement a “zero-tolerance” site policy that prevents both out-patients and volunteers, as well as employees, from having guns anywhere n their cars, locked up or not.


5 posted on 03/13/2018 12:04:56 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: arrogantsob
Hell no. Current Republican AG Morrisey is 100 % rated by the NRA and A+ by WV Citizens Defense League. He is our guy to take Traitor Manchin down.

Justice just flipped to Republican and has been rated 0% by both orgs.

He is not to be trusted.

After the Florida vote I trust no one that doesn’t have and maintain A ratings forever, period.

Trump is on the watch list, and close to losing 2nd Amend patriots support.

6 posted on 03/13/2018 12:07:56 PM PDT by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: Badboo

Trump is about to lose your support?

LOL!

He’s already lost the support of nearly everyone else who has no idea who Trump is, why should you wait any longer?


7 posted on 03/13/2018 12:13:29 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
I am glad you can laugh.

Let me know when the following actually occurs
The wall
Shut down of illegal immigration
Indictments of criminal Democrat actions ( too many names to begin a list)
National reciprocity
De-scheduling of suppressors

His action on bumpstocks is exactly what we criticized the usurper for (inventing law) and even he wouldn’t go there.

The fact is he is 50/50 on results and has to step up his game. Yes I appreciate the first 50 % but will brook no transgression of Constitutional rights.

And I was a Trump supporter most likely long before you.

8 posted on 03/13/2018 12:44:11 PM PDT by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: Badboo

I have been a loyal Trump supporter since 2011.

Emphasis on loyal.


9 posted on 03/13/2018 12:48:15 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Gee i thought that loyalty thing went out with King George.

All politicians are pissants. The only issue is he or she our pissant or theirs?

Like it or not the divide has to be breached and it won’t be pretty.

If sleepy Jeff does what he is suppose to do, we will have Oct. surprises to favorably affect the midterms. If not, and it goes south we will have lame Donald Duck doing Deals. But with the enemy.

F loyalty, winning is what you want Patton style, breach the divide and destroy your enemies’ ability to project power for a century. Failing that, your grandchildren will be in the same boat and worse than under the usurper in a few short years.

Another on my list - first amendment rights enforced on all public institutions upon pain of criminal and civil penalties.

10 posted on 03/13/2018 1:14:57 PM PDT by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: Badboo

You Never Trumper’s are to be mocked and ridiculed for your silly ‘principles’.


11 posted on 03/13/2018 1:51:05 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Badboo

Trump is not in danger of losing much of his support.

Does the AG have any charisma? Or is he just another colorless Republican?


12 posted on 03/13/2018 2:51:57 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Badboo

Trump is not in danger of losing much of his support.

Does the AG have any charisma? Or is he just another colorless Republican?


13 posted on 03/13/2018 2:51:58 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: marktwain

Good for West Virginia! That’s the way to do it.


14 posted on 03/13/2018 4:35:30 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Badboo

The age hike is the line in the sand for a larger number of voters: a line that won’t be redrawn.


15 posted on 03/13/2018 4:40:28 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Badboo

The Extreme Risk Protection Orders issue is another one.


16 posted on 03/13/2018 4:42:46 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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