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Some of the sacrifices and vulnerabilities that we, as a nation, may have to endure in order to remain free may seem atrocious and unbearable... Until we honestly and thoroughly consider the inevitable consequences associated with all other alternatives.
1 posted on 02/19/2018 6:53:53 AM PST by Sopater
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Marriage?


2 posted on 02/19/2018 6:55:44 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know saying Syrian rebels in anost back in Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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Is Freedom of speech worth dying for? Is your God worth dying for? How about the right to a trial, and the need for duly sworn warrants?

How about Federalized driving licenses?

When it comes to “fighting” for something, its not about the 2nd amendment. The government does not give us a “right.” That is where all of these people are wrong.


3 posted on 02/19/2018 6:56:29 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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I will defend the constitution to the death of all who desire to destroy it. P.S. or nation is not a democracy, please stop calling it that.


4 posted on 02/19/2018 6:56:53 AM PST by exnavy (America: love it or leave it.)
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Where is the outrage for all the deaths in Chicago? Detroit? NYC?

A gun did not cause this massacre. Nor the one at Sandy Hook.

A mental unbalanced person caused the massacres.

Muslims have driven autos & trucks into crowds in Europe, killing many.

I have NOT heard one single peep about the vehicles causing the deaths.


6 posted on 02/19/2018 6:58:24 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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Governments, primarily "redistributionist" governments, murdered 262,000,000 of their own citizens in the 20th century alone, and citizen disarmament was a necessary prerequisite to all those democides.

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM


7 posted on 02/19/2018 6:58:39 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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Which Amendments have Americans not died for?


8 posted on 02/19/2018 6:59:23 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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I believe we will have to make that choice in our lifetime. It’s not just are we willing to die, but the other aspect...much tougher for me is are we willing to kill For freedom?

I just don’t know the answer to that personally...


10 posted on 02/19/2018 7:00:00 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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meh...

‘Reasonable precautions’ without sacrificing the civil liberties of any American would include keeping foreigners who adhere to a supremacist anti-Western world view out of our country. Then we’ll discuss sacrifices.


11 posted on 02/19/2018 7:00:01 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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"Why now can we not have a serious national conversation about sacrifice, the inevitability of sacrifice—either of (a) some portion of safety or (b) some portion of the rights and protections that make the American idea so incalculably precious?”

Benjamin Franklin already responded to this false premise two hundred years ago - "He who would trade freedom for safety will soon have neither."

12 posted on 02/19/2018 7:00:26 AM PST by circlecity
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Only read the title;

Yes


13 posted on 02/19/2018 7:00:43 AM PST by Romans Nine
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I believe that life is dangerous. You can live a safe life by hiding, avoiding any dangerous activity, and bubble-wrapping yourself.

I was against the Patriot Act. I’m against FISA. I’m against the various ways that the government monitors us. My employer is industrial and believes that we can have zero accidents. I don’t believe that.

If people understand that life is dangerous, they act carefully on their own—or they choose not to at their own peril. The Second Amendment is an acknowledgement that life is dangerous, that people are sinners, and that your safety is your responsibility.


14 posted on 02/19/2018 7:00:52 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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Is Our Freedom worth fighting for? Absolutely


15 posted on 02/19/2018 7:01:51 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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My basic attitude toward the 2nd Amendment has,as its most important and fundamental point,the fact that I want government officials...elected,appointed and “civil service”...to understand that I will not allow anything remotely resembling “tyranny” to exist in this country and that if I ever find such tyranny to exist I have both the determination *and* the tools to resist that tyranny....by any means necessary.
16 posted on 02/19/2018 7:02:19 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama & Hillary: The Two Most Corrupt Politicians of My Lifetime.)
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The disarmists need to decide whether or not “gun-control” is worth dying for ...


18 posted on 02/19/2018 7:02:35 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Is it worth dying for?
Try repealing it and watch what happens...


19 posted on 02/19/2018 7:03:31 AM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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A large factor in the homicide declines of the last 20 years was proactive policing, including stop-and-frisk - which was a direct affront to the Constitution. Freedom means you don’t catch all the crooks and perps prior to the fact. BLM apparently is OK with the increased homicide rate as many police departments are backing away from proactive policing.


20 posted on 02/19/2018 7:04:24 AM PST by dirtboy
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23 posted on 02/19/2018 7:06:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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If we didn’t have the Gun Control Act of 1968 , 911 would have NEVER Happened, half the passengers would have been armed and the hijackers would have been shot!


24 posted on 02/19/2018 7:08:30 AM PST by eyeamok (Tolerance: The virtue of having a belief in Nothing!)
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An awful lot of people HAVE died for the 2nd Amendment, and the Constitution.

The fact is, were it not for the 2nd Amendment, America would have dissolved years ago. It’s the “wall” that protects the people from a tyrannically government.

Those who would-be tyrants cannot figure out how to get around, or over this “wall”. But the shark has been jumped...and by sheer virtue of HAVING the amendment, prevents anyone from taking the right away.

The more “shootings” they can generate, in places like schools, etc., the more chance (they figure) they’ll have to abolish it. In a perfect, Dr. Suess world, that might be true, but the rights, and the guns, are too numerous, and too embedded.

I would be like the final level of “Doom” if the government tried such a foolish endeavor.


25 posted on 02/19/2018 7:08:58 AM PST by FrankR (An armed society is a polite society.)
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“Have Gun, Will Travel”


26 posted on 02/19/2018 7:13:08 AM PST by onedoug
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