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AUTONOMOUS CARS Motorcyclist Sues GM Over Crash With Self-Driving Chevy Bolt
Jalopnik ^ | 1/23/18 | Justin T. Westbrook

Posted on 01/23/2018 10:42:53 PM PST by Impala64ssa

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It was inevitable. But hey, what's a little collateral damage? Chances are, one day one of these self driving cars will be rolling down a city street, and a White person will walk in front of it from one side of the street and a Black person will step in front of it from the other side simultaneously. If that car runs over the wrong person do we need to speculate the outrage and hand wringing and all that goes with it from BLM, the SJW's and the rest of the usual suspects?
1 posted on 01/23/2018 10:42:53 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

I think 5 to 10 young men in their 20s and 30s are killed here in the Bay Area every year when lane splitting. A young man who worked in our town and was well liked by everybody died that way last summer.

I’ve gone to change lanes to the right, looked over my shoulder and in the mirror, signaled, started the lane change and BAM! a lane splitter shows up out of nowhere. I’ve had to abort lane changes more than once for that reason.

I don’t blame the Bolt...blame the idiot motorcyclist.


2 posted on 01/23/2018 10:56:41 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Impala64ssa
Interesting. This gonna breathe new life into philosophers' Trolley Car problems...

Trolley Problem

Trolley Problems and Doctrine of Double Effect

3 posted on 01/23/2018 11:02:55 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I know, lane splitting is illegal in FL and most states, but I think CA allows it in some areas? It’s legal in most parts of Australia and there’s plenty of road rage vids on You Tube from down under showing lane splitting incidents ending badly for these guys on their crotch rockets. A friend of ours was an ER nurse, she had a name for those “daredevils”, ORGAN DONORS.


4 posted on 01/23/2018 11:03:39 PM PST by Impala64ssa (Islamophobic? NO! IslamABHORic)
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To: Impala64ssa

And it begins. Most of us here realized this is a fatal flaw. GM becomes the deep pocket and will be sued to oblivion. Maybe not this case, but there will inevitably be a baby stroller.


5 posted on 01/23/2018 11:19:01 PM PST by DaxtonBrown
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To: Impala64ssa

That is an idiotic statement. This is not racism you fool.

Robot vehicles are running over motorcyclists.


6 posted on 01/23/2018 11:24:38 PM PST by TheNext
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To: Impala64ssa
Did you bother to read your own article?
The San Francisco Police Department determined Nilsson to be at fault for the collision because he was attempting to pass on the right. The police report also claimed that the Bolt aborted its lane change, and that the GM employee behind the wheel of the vehicle attempted to steer away from the motorcyclist but was too late to avoid contact.
People who pass on the right should be executed. (Well, that's the way it is in Germany I've read.)
7 posted on 01/23/2018 11:27:43 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Impala64ssa

We have all these nerds who worship technology, but each gadget you carry has multiple failures.
Technology has many failures, get used to it, and on a car that kills people.


8 posted on 01/23/2018 11:28:49 PM PST by TheNext
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To: DaxtonBrown

Another one who didn’t read the article.


9 posted on 01/23/2018 11:28:57 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Moonman62

I thought not reading article was fr tradition :)


10 posted on 01/24/2018 12:21:36 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Impala64ssa

“Re-centering” = Lawyerese BS

Lane splitting is dangerous. I’m surprised it is legal anywhere, but this was California which explains a lot.

Police reports are not always accurate, but they are under pressure to assign blame so they do. Therefore, lawsuits happen.

The whole incident boils down to this, IMHO:

The computer incorrectly assumed that the spot that it vacated when it attempted the lane change would remain vacant. The motorcyclist incorrectly assumed that the car would complete the lane change and stay there. Both were wrong, both share the blame.

This could just as easily have happened with a conventionally operated car.


11 posted on 01/24/2018 12:32:43 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Impala64ssa

I have had so many near misses with motorcyclists over the years that it isn’t even funny. They just come out of nowhere going way over the speed limit. If they are suicidal they should just jump off a bridge. They always blame the car driver for not seeing them.


12 posted on 01/24/2018 12:33:47 AM PST by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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BAM! a lane splitter shows up out of nowhere.

A Bolt out of the blue?

13 posted on 01/24/2018 2:02:19 AM PST by Does so (Release the memo...!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I don’t know.

I rode a motorcycle in the LA area for quite a while. There are guys who are far too aggressive, yes, but there are also people who are dangerous to bikers.

You’ve got both. Bikers, don’t push things to the limit.

But cars, also watch for people riding. There is fault on both sides, sometimes.

The car has a big advantage however, in any collision, so just watch for bikes, is all.

Peace, out.


14 posted on 01/24/2018 2:07:09 AM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: seawolf101
I have had so many near misses with motorcyclists over the years that it isn’t even funny.

1) I had a close call when turning right at a stop sign. A motorcycle was being tailgated by a pickup truck, so my glance told me that the pickup truck had one headlight out.

2) Connecticut's I-84 through Hartford has "midnight motorcycle races" that can triple the speed limit. 'Something to experience as "lane-splitting" is necessary for them.

≡≡8-O

15 posted on 01/24/2018 2:11:49 AM PST by Does so (Release the memo...!)
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To: Fresh Wind
Lane splitting is dangerous. I’m surprised it is legal anywhere, but this was California which explains a lot.

Check out YouTube for some California "bike adventures".

16 posted on 01/24/2018 2:14:10 AM PST by Does so (Release the memo...!)
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To: Impala64ssa

Did you read the article you posted?

There’s nothing here.

WAY too many freepers are doing that lately.


17 posted on 01/24/2018 2:15:21 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Agreed and poster should have read the article before posting.


18 posted on 01/24/2018 2:15:53 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Impala64ssa

If you want to take out a motorcyclist, clip his front wheel. That is the most difficult collision to recover from.

If you want to entice a motorcyclist to attempt to pass you, go 12 mph.


19 posted on 01/24/2018 3:02:51 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: Moonman62

I pass on he right several times a day. I especially like to do it to Truckers who enjoy the tyranny of trying to use two lanes by leaving the right lane empty. If a driver doesn’t want people passing him on the right, he needs to move right and let them pass him on the left. I make it a point to pass truck drivers on the right even if I could pass them on the left. And on my daily commute that’s pretty normal since it’s a six-lane freeway


20 posted on 01/24/2018 3:07:48 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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