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Russia Dominating Mideast and Mediterranean
The Trumpet ^ | 28 Dec 2017

Posted on 12/28/2017 7:33:33 AM PST by Thistooshallpass9

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ussian President Vladimir Putin has recently submitted an agreement to the Russian State Duma, saying that Moscow will build a full-fledged naval base in Syria.

This base will be in Syria’s Mediterranean coastal city of Tartus and is expected to greatly strengthen the operational capabilities of Russia’s Mediterranean fleet and to boost Russia’s ability to project power in the Middle East.


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1 posted on 12/28/2017 7:33:33 AM PST by Thistooshallpass9
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Obama started Islamist civil wars and Libya and Syria, and tried to bring Ukraine into the EU/globalist orbit - and his schemes failed.

So Russia won and they get the spoils


2 posted on 12/28/2017 7:42:06 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Thistooshallpass9

His grip on Russia will unravel in the next 6 years. Watch and learn.

His geopolitical delusions will be revealed for what they are: sick attempts to cover for his own system, make his oligarch cronies rich, and distract from his own country’s weaknesses and vulnerabilities.

The Russians have played along for awhile, but younger ones are waking up.


3 posted on 12/28/2017 7:43:51 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: PGR88

Putin will be gone before 2024. His system is breaking.


4 posted on 12/28/2017 7:44:50 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Another Obama Administration legacy that you won’t here about from the MSM.


5 posted on 12/28/2017 7:49:44 AM PST by McGruff (Lock Her Up! In a Padded Cell!)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Russia’s dominance is NOT new.


6 posted on 12/28/2017 7:52:25 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: McGruff

Putin’s system can only survive with Obama-types in power. It is not strong in and of itself. It can only capitalize on the weaknesses of its rivals. Now Trump is in charge. Game is very different. And Putin’s illusion of power will unravel. It already is domestically. Will take a bit longer internationally.


7 posted on 12/28/2017 7:56:39 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Sacajaweau

And what else isnt new is Westerners’ susceptibility to overestimate Russia’s strength. We did this throughout the Cold War as well, and the Soviet Union was stronger than modern Russia. But even then the tendency for us to overestimate held true.


8 posted on 12/28/2017 7:58:14 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: PGR88

Yup.


9 posted on 12/28/2017 8:01:16 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Uh, No.


10 posted on 12/28/2017 8:01:47 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Government: Another Gang that steals your money for "Protection".)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

I’m just saying what happened.

Obama (and Clinton) grasped for grand strategic schemes using proxies and secret wars, without concern for consequences - and he failed miserably, and created great chaos.

A strategic rival simply stepped in the way and blocked him.

Maybe Putin will wind up hanging from a lamppost some day, but Russia is not going anywhere. Obama has also cemented in place Russia and China as long-term strategic rivals, so he has created long term barriers to USA policy everywhere.


11 posted on 12/28/2017 8:01:57 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Russian Carrier Fleet adrift in Mediterranean...no one will give them gas

https://www.discussionist.com/1014311118


12 posted on 12/28/2017 8:02:55 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Government: Another Gang that steals your money for "Protection".)
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Comical march of so-called "Russian aircraft carrier group" headed by aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" to the shores of Syria at war, amused the entire Internet, it seems, risks to become the biggest shame in the history of the Russian Navy.

No. That would still be the near total destruction of the Tsar's armada by the Japanese in 1905.

13 posted on 12/28/2017 8:06:26 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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A carrier group adrift with no fuel IS pretty funny, though, and horribly embarrassing for Russia.


14 posted on 12/28/2017 8:07:24 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The 1905 Battle of Tsushima is pretty well documented in this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Tsars-Last-Armada-Journey-Tsushima/dp/0465057926


15 posted on 12/28/2017 8:11:17 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: PGR88

Well obstacles are normal but let’s not overestimate authoritarian systems and underestimate our own!

China made smarter economic/financial moves than Russia but it is still more dependent on the U.S. than vice versa and there are cracks in its social order that are covered up by the short term material/financial gains they’ve made this decade.

Russia is better off economically than...the Soviet Union, but the country wants the glories of the latter back and chose the return of empire over economic diversification, freedom, and rooting out kleptocratic corruption. Let’s see where that goes.


16 posted on 12/28/2017 8:13:15 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: PGR88
...Russia is not going anywhere.

A lot of countries have found that out the hard way over the last few centuries.

17 posted on 12/28/2017 8:14:58 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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“Obama started Islamist civil wars and Libya and Syria”

Libya was Billary, Inc.’s project, with big RINO neocon (McCain) backing as well. Obama approved but it did not originate within the White House policy groups.

The move for regime change in Syria began during the eight years of GWBush, and had been progressing to a “take off” point for years. It was another neocon project that Obama’s people bought into after the “Arab spring” in Egypt and North Africa. The neocons like McCain and the Bushes pushed the regime change agenda, and obtained reluctant Obama agreement to go along. Yet, ANYONE, especially the neocons, thinking Assad would go (a) without a huge fight and (b) without calling in every chip he could with both Russia and Iran was just fantasizing a rosy scenario that was never going to happen.

Before the neocons regime change in Syria took off, Syria was a stable security situation for the U.S., and Assad had no call, no rationale, to seek broader and deeper Russian and Iranian influence in his country.

Obama inherited the neocons Syria agenda. He did not invent it and he was always reluctant towards it.

You can thank the Bush-Billary neocon duopoly in the deep state for creation and pushing of the agenda in Syria that made it a failed state in need of expanded Russian and Iranian support for survival.


18 posted on 12/28/2017 8:18:43 AM PST by Wuli
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To: GoldenState_Rose
let’s not overestimate authoritarian systems and underestimate our own!

Underestimate our own - for what end? Personally, I don't want the USA to run a global empire.

19 posted on 12/28/2017 8:27:57 AM PST by PGR88
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Obama inherited the neocons Syria agenda. He did not invent it and he was always reluctant towards it.

That is where I am still confused about Obama. He was promoted as the anti-war candidate in the USA and globally. They even gave him a goddamn fake Nobel Prize. Of course, it was all bullshit for his hologram-like PR image. Yet he happily engaged in war, strife and division, both abroad and at home. Are you saying Obama was simply a puppet?

20 posted on 12/28/2017 8:31:47 AM PST by PGR88
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