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What Does Tesla's Automated Truck Mean for Truckers?
Wired | November 17, 2017 | Aarian Marshal

Posted on 11/25/2017 8:27:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Link only due to copyright issues: https://www.wired.com/story/what-does-teslas-truck-mean-for-truckers/


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: automakers; automation; tesla; trucking
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I don't think the lawyers will allow it.
1 posted on 11/25/2017 8:27:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Link to article: https://www.wired.com/story/what-does-teslas-truck-mean-for-truckers/


2 posted on 11/25/2017 8:28:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Snow Storm wrecks galore.


3 posted on 11/25/2017 8:29:29 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If we’re talking Teamster’s Union, watch for punctured tires, fire bombs, and charging stations in flames.


4 posted on 11/25/2017 8:31:06 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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The one they just introduced still requires a driver. Those will sell like hotcakes in Kalifornia just to move containers to and from points just out of Kalifornia where diesel rigs will do the long hauls. Caltrans will will have to pound sand when they don’t have diesels to pick on. Outside of Kalifornia for long hauls ... not much of a reason to buy them.


5 posted on 11/25/2017 8:40:52 PM PST by meatloaf
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It means they can be put out of a job by a company that couldn’t make a profit of life was the stake.


6 posted on 11/25/2017 8:45:03 PM PST by stevem
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Like to see ‘em back into loading docks on narrow Manhattan back roads with half the parked cars illegally double-parked ...


7 posted on 11/25/2017 8:48:46 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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funny thing about control algorithms

gentle nudges with S-10 pickups


8 posted on 11/25/2017 8:55:04 PM PST by Eddie01 (I did this for no reason)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lots of futuristic ideas are being proposed but will take two things to gain popularity. (1) The bugs need to be resolved, (Google cars wait for everything else to stop at an intersection before they can proceed — but cars with drivers will roll through and gain the right of way.) and (2) They need to fill a need and be more profitable than hiring people. (But for a lot of reasons people will be used for part of the ride — as has been mentioned, double parked vehicles on a route, and loading and unloading unusual and fragile cargo)

In the end, the job market will change, lots of drivers will end up with station jobs caring and maintaining a fleet of trucks that run long hauls more efficiently.

I have my skepticism that the age of the driver/car/truck is going to be wiped out in a single wave, but I do expect some change to occur gradually.

And the comment about lawyers is valid too, a few mistakes and some heavy lawsuits will also slow down the process of change.


9 posted on 11/25/2017 9:06:32 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Trump has one good idea after the other.)
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A good ‘acid test’
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If they let them on the docks...

I was trying to deliver something to NY in my F250 cargo van and the ‘clown’ with the clipboard told me I needed NY ‘truck’ tags...I said my tags from VA are ‘truck’ tags even though VN vet(sometimes works in NYC) he said no go and said ‘I wouldn’t park up there either’ - I said cops with tickets..Yes that too BUT some of the guys.....

I had to call our NY Office to meet me with a ‘proper truck’...cost me about 3 hours...luckily only stop BUT I never took another NYC job during the day unless ‘they’ met me on site, then changed it to the local office where they ‘had’ to unload and reload..Technically I couldn’t even unload my truck...’according to the guys’...

These are the same union types that wouldn’t allow NON UNION electrician VOLUNTEERS to work hurricane damage until they ‘bought’ a card...Definitely bonus time for the local union...


10 posted on 11/25/2017 9:07:23 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98)""If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now")
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Just look at construction for subways in nyc, the most expensive in the world. Then on top of that, ya have the most expensive to operate them. Crazy. I can’t imagine having to do logistics in nyc, must be hell.


11 posted on 11/25/2017 9:27:09 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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will there be a wave of Mexican robots taking American robot driving jobs ? #NAFTA


12 posted on 11/25/2017 9:30:40 PM PST by llevrok (Swamp nothing! Give Washington DC an enema !)
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I believe Musk also claimed that he will have charging stations built for these trucks that will give 80% charge in 30 minutes. With the batteries required for these ‘haulers’, it will take about 2 megawatts of power to accomplish that feat. The average home in the USA uses 1 megawatt per month. Musk intends to suck 2 months worth of energy for one household in 30 minutes for 1 truck. In that 30 minutes 1 truck will place the same load on the grid as that of 1400 households. Imagine 10 or 20 trucks at the same station at the same time. Who is going to pay for the grid upgrade necessary for this massive load on said grid? Musk? You? What about isolated places? This may work for short hauls...... maybe. Info from The Market Ticker.


13 posted on 11/25/2017 9:35:00 PM PST by yadent
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Name just One ...

Microsoft product that finally got the bugs out?

Android gadget that got the bugs out?

iPhone gadget that got the bugs out?

Heck just put the Robot truck on the highway.


14 posted on 11/25/2017 9:52:45 PM PST by TheNext (DEPORT ISLAM RETROACTIVELY)
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Musk also claimed the power from the superchargers would cost 7 cents per kwh...and the truck would be warranteed for a million miles. If energy really costs 15 cents per kwh, Tesla is on the hook for tens of thousands of dollars in subsidized charging...not to mention what it costs them to warranty the truck for a million miles...oh, and the cost of building a supercharger network. Details, details.


15 posted on 11/25/2017 9:52:59 PM PST by lacrew
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Details on the claim - here:

http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=232614


16 posted on 11/25/2017 9:55:12 PM PST by Vineyard
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Just imagine a driverless anything in the hands of a terrorist


17 posted on 11/25/2017 9:57:35 PM PST by Sybeck1
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the double-parked part of my hypothetical was true. friend of mine who used to be a long-haul trucker got blocked in by a row of illegally double-parked cars and he said he just side-swiped them and kept going without ever looking back ...


18 posted on 11/25/2017 10:03:57 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Four wheelers lane diving wrecks. Truckers have to anticipate so much bad driving. Self driving does not have intuition.


19 posted on 11/25/2017 10:06:31 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom
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Its not going to be the massive success everyone thinks it will be.

I predict it will not catch on, at least not this iteration.


20 posted on 11/25/2017 10:14:05 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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