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To: Edward.Fish

It just keeps getting weirder and weirder.


No, it doesn’t. Not when you consider the unreliability of early reporting and updates as more information is aquired.

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Initial reports had 19 weapons, on the 3rd or 4th I was waiting in an office and they had the news on where they scrolled by 45. (I’ve also heard 23 and 42.)
Odd how the number kept changing.


I do not find it odd at all. The 40+ number is the total found in his residences and at the Hotel.

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The fact that he had so many guns, even the smallest number (19) would have been rather challenging to bring in without arousing suspicion.


A trivial number to bring to a Hotel room in baggage, without suspicion. Consider the Shot Show in Las Vegas. Some exhibitors bring in hundreds of guns.

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(And here the hotel worker said he didn’t have many bags.)


Already covered.

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Also, there’s the fact that 19 guns is excessive for a one-man operation.
(The official story is, and [TTBOMK] has always been, that this was a “lone wolf” incident.)


Why? The guy had a lot of guns. He had a lot of time. He was rather obsessive/compulsive.

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The fact that the shooting sounds so very regular, like full auto rate of fire.
(ie Not what I would expect a bump-stock or similar gimmick to sound like.)


Have you much experience with bump stocks? I suggest you look at some bump stock videos on Youtube. The sounds do not seem anomalous to me.

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The fact that people heard two shooters.
Granted, acoustics can do some funny things, but there’s this guy… and eyewitnesses.


You are right about the acoustics. They do all sort of strange things. The shooter also had different calibers, different guns, and different positions to shoot from.


38 posted on 10/14/2017 9:48:55 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain; DallasBiff
>> Initial reports had 19 weapons, on the 3rd or 4th I was waiting in an office and they had the news on where they scrolled by 45. (I’ve also heard 23 and 42.)
>> Odd how the number kept changing.
> I do not find it odd at all. The 40+ number is the total found in his residences and at the Hotel.
Perhaps.
>> The fact that he had so many guns, even the smallest number (19) would have been rather challenging to bring in without arousing suspicion.
> A trivial number to bring to a Hotel room in baggage, without suspicion. Consider the Shot Show in Las Vegas. Some exhibitors bring in hundreds of guns.
While it's true that that's the case for gun-shows, I have no idea if there were any gunshows in Las Vegas at/near the time.
But you're ignoring DallasBiff: Having worked as a bellman/valet you always remember the people with lots and unusual baggage.
>> Also, there’s the fact that 19 guns is excessive for a one-man operation.
>> (The official story is, and [TTBOMK] has always been, that this was a “lone wolf” incident.)
> Why? The guy had a lot of guns. He had a lot of time. He was rather obsessive/compulsive.
If he's highly compulsive and intelligent, then the mixing of calibers would be strange (ie complicating when you have to reload), thus weakening your following objection.
>> The fact that the shooting sounds so very regular, like full auto rate of fire.
>> (ie Not what I would expect a bump-stock or similar gimmick to sound like.)
> Have you much experience with bump stocks? I suggest you look at some bump stock videos on Youtube. The sounds do not seem anomalous to me.
I have not used bump-stocks; though I do have experience with full-auto. (Prior military.)
>> The fact that people heard two shooters.
>> Granted, acoustics can do some funny things, but there’s this guy… and eyewitnesses. > You are right about the acoustics. They do all sort of strange things. The shooter also had different calibers, different guns, and different positions to shoot from.
Certainly changing calibers would change the acoustic properties, but the other shots are intermingled with Mandalay Bay's shooter's shots. So either he was dual-wielding Rambo-style, or there was a second shooter.
55 posted on 10/14/2017 10:09:24 AM PDT by Edward.Fish
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