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Back in the Trenches Ithaca M37 Trench Gun
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 9/13/2017 | Frank Jardim

Posted on 09/13/2017 10:22:17 AM PDT by w1n1

The Army’s best combat pump shotgun is back: Inland’s reissue of Ithaca’s M37 Trench Gun.

Two top-shelf Ohio-based firearms manufacturers have partnered to bring collectors and shooters a fine reissue – I hesitate to call it a replica – of the vintage U.S. Army Ithaca M37 Trench Gun.

This retro military model is made by the Upper Sandusky-based Ithaca Gun Company for their Dayton neighbor, Inland Manufacturing. The latter is best known for their excellent reproductions of World War II M1 carbines.

It was during World War I that you might say the Army got serious about shotguns. It was, after all, the biggest war they had fought to date. Close combat in the trenches, and especially night fighting, favored the massive firepower of fast-shooting pump shotguns.

Each 00 buckshot round blasted out nine .33 caliber pellets, increasing the chances of a lethal hit on the enemy. WWI trench guns could shoot exceptionally fast because they lacked a trigger disconnector.

This allowed them to fire with every pump of the action as long as the trigger was held back continuously. Today we would regard this as a safety flaw, but to the doughboy standing in an enemy trench in 1918, that extra bit of speed was regarded as an edge.

The Germans hated facing shotguns, and even filed a formal complaint that using shotguns was a violation of the rules of civilized warfare – to no avail. The trench gun was born. Read the rest of the Ithaca M37 Trench Gun here.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: banglist; ithacam37; shotguns; ww1
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1 posted on 09/13/2017 10:22:18 AM PDT by w1n1
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To: w1n1

Id rather have an aa-12


2 posted on 09/13/2017 10:28:40 AM PDT by robroys woman
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To: w1n1

I owned an Ithaca Model 37 many years ago. This was an earlier model with only one action bar. It was not the trench gun but the hunting version.

Basically a boringly reliable shotgun which handled well. If it needed two action bars John Browning would have put two on it.


3 posted on 09/13/2017 10:29:50 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: w1n1

For urban situations, home invasions and post-disaster looting moments.


4 posted on 09/13/2017 10:30:11 AM PDT by lurk
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To: yarddog
"..John Browning would have put two on it."

Uh, John Browning DID design it..in 1915.

5 posted on 09/13/2017 10:37:51 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

That is what I was saying.

He actually did not technically design the model 37 but it was a virtual copy of a Remington which Browning did design. He put only a single action bar on it.


6 posted on 09/13/2017 10:39:58 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: w1n1

I read an account of a Marine who used a shotgun in WW II. Said that he needed to be careful where he used it because it always drew tremendous fire when he did.


7 posted on 09/13/2017 10:44:40 AM PDT by wbill
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To: w1n1

Still shooting the M37 Featherweight given to me by my dad.


8 posted on 09/13/2017 10:54:03 AM PDT by Gman
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Nothing says stay the hell out of my house than a shotgun with a bayonet...


9 posted on 09/13/2017 10:56:02 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: yarddog
"He actually did not technically design the model 37 but it was a virtual copy of a Remington which Browning did design. He put only a single action bar on it.

Ithaca produced the Model 37 precisely to John Browning's design once Remington's patents lapsed: it's not virtual, it's exactly the same design.

As far as the single action bar goes, if JB designed it that way, then it's right. It works just fine and always has. I love "experts" who think they know more about firearms design than the Master.

We used them in Vietnam and they never failed us.

10 posted on 09/13/2017 11:01:16 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: w1n1

My Remington 870 with short barrel and pistol grip is my house cannon.
I’ve named her, Crowd Control”.


11 posted on 09/13/2017 11:06:04 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: 2banana
Which is illegal in CA. Bayonet mount on a gun is unlawful there.

OTOH my dad has a Winchester 1300 Defender pump - eight rounds.

12 posted on 09/13/2017 11:07:12 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Notice How Our Symbol Of America Is Brown And White?)
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To: w1n1

I’ll take a Winchester Model of 1897, thank you. Feeds either from the magazine or just drop one in the ejection port. There are probably still racks of M97s in an armory somewhere. Maybe CMP will release them some day.


13 posted on 09/13/2017 11:16:32 AM PDT by kitchen (If you are a violin bow maker or restorer please ping me.)
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Which is illegal in CA. Bayonet mount on a gun is unlawful there.
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I thought bayonet mount was only a problem as a ‘feature’ on a semi-automatic centerfire rifle capable of accepting a magazine holding more than 10 rounds.

My Garand had a bayonet mount before it was lost in the big boating accident (and let me say it was very hard to find enough water to float a boat during the drought).


14 posted on 09/13/2017 11:24:27 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: w1n1

The 12 gauge with 00 buck is the most effective small arm in existence.

Out to 100 feet, nothing else even comes close.


15 posted on 09/13/2017 11:53:52 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I carried an Ithaca 37 in RVN, although not a “trench,” just a shortened-barrel 12g. It was a great personal defense weapon, and definitely not an official part of the armory inventory, just something that was passed from one Marine to another through attrition, rotation, etc. How it got in-country I have no idea, but I wish I still had it....


16 posted on 09/13/2017 12:07:21 PM PDT by clintonh8r (AMERICA! THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY SCREEN NAME OBSOLETE!)
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To: Scrambler Bob

They may have extended it to other arms but in this case I think they showed an M1 carbine.


17 posted on 09/13/2017 12:08:15 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Notice How Our Symbol Of America Is Brown And White?)
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To: Gman

Ithaca M37 Featherweight with a pheasant etched on the receiver was my first shotgun. I was twelve and I think the gun was twice my age.


18 posted on 09/13/2017 12:09:18 PM PDT by philled (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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Upper Sandusky-based Ithaca Gun Company

I'll bet the Ithaca NY crowd hates the company's name.

Makes me laugh

19 posted on 09/13/2017 12:18:38 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (If you choose not to deal with reality, reality will deal with you - and not on your terms)
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I just bought a Mossberg 500 last Saturday. She’s ugly but she sure is purty.


20 posted on 09/13/2017 12:29:55 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither. Democrats are the party of sore losers and pedophiles.)
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