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DREAMers Lobby Against a Trump Border Wall Deal—Even One That Would Save Them
The Daily Beast ^ | September 5, 2017 | Sam Stein

Posted on 09/06/2017 6:44:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Recipients of DACA are encouraging lawmakers to reject the main demand the president has made in exchange for their legal protections.

President Donald Trump’s decision Tuesday to phase out the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals immigration policy opened the door for legislative deal making. And no proposed trade has been more widely discussed than one in which Trump gets funding for his beloved border wall in exchange for permanent legal protections for the so-called DREAMers.

There are just two major hitches: Democrats aren’t biting and, more significantly, neither are DACA recipients.

Those recipients, along with immigration reform advocates, have been lobbying lawmakers to reject any deal that would result in a border wall, Capitol Hill aides and activists have told The Daily Beast.

The DREAMers have done so despite the fact that such an arrangement would directly ensure that their legal status was no longer in limbo after Trump announced he would scrap the program that President Barack Obama began via executive action in 2012. And it’s not just in the halls of Congress where they’re stressing that point.

“I’m not going to step on top of my community to get ahead,” said Jose Aguiluz, a D.C. native who was brought by his family from Honduras when he was 15 years old and who received his DACA status in 2012.

Aguiluz, a nurse, was outside the White House on Tuesday to protest Trump’s decision. “By me trying to say, ‘Oh, let’s make a deal with the wall,’ it is like I’m stepping up on my community, my parents, uncles, and grandparents, that I’m putting them down so that I can get ahead,” he said. “That’s unfair and it’s not American.”

Nearby stood Carlos Arellano, who was brought to the United States by his parents from Mexico when he was 15 and received DACA protection at age 26.

“DACA changed my life completely,” he said, explaining how the program allowed him to pursue a nursing degree.

A stethoscope rested on Arellano’s shoulders and a pained look showed on his face. He was nine months away from getting that degree but wouldn’t take a deal that could ensure its usage if that deal involved funding a border wall.

“DACA shouldn’t be used as a political football,” he said. “They are playing with the future of young, very bright immigrants like myself.”

The refusal of DACA recipients to sign off on a border-wall exchange raises the stakes around a dramatic, fast-moving attempt to piece together narrowly tailored immigration reform.

On Tuesday, Trump gave lawmakers an effective deadline. He didn’t rescind DACA immediately. Instead, he offered a six-month off-ramp for the program, with a smaller timeframe for current recipients to renew their status.

In doing so, he challenged lawmakers to craft a bill that will fill the void that he had created.

It’s a tall order.

Hardline immigration hawks in the Republican Party have already signaled opposition to any form of legislation that would give legal protections to undocumented Americans, while Democrats have said they will not engage in talks that would effectively turn DACA recipients into bargaining chips.

“First, you cannot reward an immoral act with a concession. Who knows what Trump will do next?” said Ron Klain, a longtime Democratic operative who is a forceful immigration reform advocate. “Second, there’s no legitimate argument for denying status to these people here, not by choice, who have been law-abiding... Third, there’s no rationale for using taxpayer money for an ineffective $20 billion monument to Trump’s ego. Trump said taxpayers wouldn’t have to fund it. He should be held to that.”

But despite the seemingly wide gulf between the two sides, the construct of a deal began to emerge Tuesday amid the frantic fallout of the Trump announcement.

Numerous Republican lawmakers, including many who had supported lawsuits against Obama’s DACA program and others who had voted against the last attempt to give protections to DREAMers, called for quick action to protect the 800,000 or so recipients who were affected by Tuesday’s decision.

Many insisted that some sort of border security or crackdown on undocumented immigration should accompany whatever arrangement gets pieced together.

“I don’t believe DACA will be the only thing that will be addressed because there’s been a long-standing conviction I think of most members of Congress that our immigration system is broken,” Senate GOP Whip John Cornyn (R-TX) told The Daily Beast. “And I think we need to start with border security and interior enforcement to regain the public’s confidence.”

But Democrats on the Hill began signaling comfort with such trade-offs. One top aide said the party could stomach more border security measures in exchange for DACA protections. Those could include more drones, fencing, and sensors, but not a “presidential vanity project” border wall.

“We are open to security that makes sense,” the aide said, noting that the comprehensive immigration reform deal that passed the Senate in 2013 included some $40 billion for border security measures.

Still, there are questions. It’s not clear whether the White House would sign off on a deal that lacked money for a physical wall.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions hinted on Tuesday that there was no inclination within the administration to support a legislative replacement to Obama’s DACA executive action. But Trump confidants don’t necessarily see Sessions as setting policy. One senior official suggested that they’d defer to Congress on the final outcome. “The ball is in Mitch [McConnell] and [Paul] Ryan’s court,” the official said.

Whether advocates will sign off on a measure that includes even nominal enhancements in security and enforcement is similarly uncertain.

Cristina Jiménez, the executive director and co-founder of United We Dream, stressed on a conference call shortly after the DACA news came down that there should be no negotiating at all. Advocates, she said, “will demand a clear legislative solution” that entails re-applying the legal protections that were just taken away.

But others seemed shell-shocked by Tuesday’s news, to the extent that they seemed ready to welcome a resolution, even if it wasn’t perfectly tidy.

“It is going to be a long fight, just like it has always been with past bills,” said Missael Garcia, a 27-year-old DACA recipient who who helped run a construction crew in Baltimore.

Garcia carried a bullhorn with him as he led protests outside the White House. Tears streamed down his face as he hugged others around him.

“I had a feeling that this would be his decision,” he said of Trump. ”But hearing it and confirming it feels totally different than thinking that this might be the decision. My thinking was that he would end it and probably come up with a better solution. So who knows. We will see what happens after this.”


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KEYWORDS: borders; daca; dreamers; trump
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So illegal alien non-citizens now have an outsized input in government policies in the United States?
1 posted on 09/06/2017 6:44:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Biggirl; ...

PING


2 posted on 09/06/2017 6:46:23 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Republicans, I suspect, may be trying to be smart and show that Democrats won’t save DACA if it means losing on the wall.

I wish they would just wage outright political hostilities, seek to crush the DNC, and stop trying to get along.


3 posted on 09/06/2017 6:49:03 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people are nothing but bargaining chips. They are not citizens and, as such, they are subject to deportation and I have no problem seeing them deported with their family. NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER AT ALL.


4 posted on 09/06/2017 6:50:51 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remove ALL illegal aliens, regardless of how old they were when they broke in.

There are NO “law-abiding” illegal aliens.


5 posted on 09/06/2017 6:53:52 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: RC one

Bill Clinton didn’t give amnesty to children of illegal aliens, why should trump have to?

goes to show how times have changed for the worse. The republican congress is to the left of Bill Clinton.
Pathetic.


6 posted on 09/06/2017 6:55:45 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Liberals arguing for their agenda--Russia! Russia! Racism! Racism! sexism! homophobia!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

...You cannot reward an immoral act with a concession...

That is correct. Obama’s flaunting immigration laws in violation of his oath and the separation of powers was both illegal and immoral.

Obama admitted his DACA was illegal. He acted in an extra-Constitutional manner. He knew Congress was in charge of immigration law and not him..

“I asked Congress to send me such a bill,” Obama says. “The bill never came. And ... my administration acted to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people, so that they could continue to contribute to our communities and our country.”

However, Article I gives Congress the exclusive authority to regulate immigration in a uniform manner.
Article 2 sets out Presidential power, and it doesn’t include immigration matters. The President must enforce immigration law and can’t grant waivers or exceptions to it.
But, Obama believes he’s above the law and the Constitution.


7 posted on 09/06/2017 7:02:38 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He was nine months away from getting that degree but wouldn’t take a deal that could ensure its usage if that deal involved funding a border wall.

Not pragmatic and in fact “Illogical Captain”...


8 posted on 09/06/2017 7:07:00 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Aguiluz, a nurse, was outside the White House on Tuesday to protest Trump’s decision. “By me trying to say, ‘Oh, let’s make a deal with the wall,’ it is like I’m stepping up on my community, my parents, uncles, and grandparents, that I’m putting them down so that I can get ahead,” he said. “That’s unfair and it’s not American.”

WTF?
Some Mexican or whatever who is not an American citizen presumes to tell us what we can or can't vote for in our own Congress?

9 posted on 09/06/2017 7:07:02 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, bye.


10 posted on 09/06/2017 7:08:31 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They know that the weak-kneed cowards in the GOP will cave to Trump, “Chuck” and “Nancy” and they’ll be full fledged citizens by spring.


11 posted on 09/06/2017 7:15:01 PM PDT by txrefugee (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dreamers?

Boy the media sure is unbiased. I guess they could have called them Angels or Perfect People or maybe just illegal aliens.

Well they couldn’t call them illegals. That is too accurate and besides it is racist.


12 posted on 09/06/2017 7:20:37 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Unreal.


13 posted on 09/06/2017 7:38:20 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Deport all of them now. I have not heard even one of them show loyalty to the United States. They are ungrateful invaders that are stealing from the American people and do not deserve to be here.


14 posted on 09/06/2017 8:36:29 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“DACA changed my life completely,” he said, explaining how the program allowed him to pursue a nursing degree...at his age he understands that he's in the US illegally and apparently doesn't seem to care - what other laws might he find inconvenient to have to obey once he becomes a nurse?.....
15 posted on 09/06/2017 8:47:27 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

HMMMM DACA changed my Life completely also, They are overrunning our Country and were Sick of it.


16 posted on 09/06/2017 9:21:50 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now the truth is coming out for those that care to listen. They do not believe we have the RIGHT to keep out illegals. That means they do not see us as a legitimate country, of course some of us knew that already. Their purpose is reconquista, plain and simple.


17 posted on 09/06/2017 9:46:51 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: Tammy8

“presidential vanity project”? It’s
what the majority of the voters want.
BUILD THAT BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL.
Deport ALL illegal aliens.
As a child, we relocated many times.
Always was able to adapt. It’s pure
horsehocky to even think these “Dreamers”
lives will be catastrophic if they’re
sent back to their respective countries of
origin.


18 posted on 09/06/2017 10:14:00 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Tammy8

“presidential vanity project”? It’s
what the majority of the voters want.
BUILD THAT BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL.
Deport ALL illegal aliens.
As a child, we relocated many times.
Always was able to adapt. It’s pure
horsehocky to even think these “Dreamers”
lives will be catastrophic if they’re
sent back to their respective countries of
origin.


19 posted on 09/06/2017 10:14:03 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would imagine that non Hispanic Dreamers might have a different take on it.


20 posted on 09/06/2017 10:16:27 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Congressional Bi-partisanship: Agreeing to the make up of the Trump firing squad.)
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