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No More Math and English Tests for California Students becauseā€¦
IWB ^ | Mark Angelides

Posted on 08/07/2017 3:28:50 PM PDT by davikkm

Politicians, state workers and the media talk constantly about how we must be doing more to get children into college, especially those from minority backgrounds or poorer families. But what is ignored is the fact that the number of people enrolling is nothing like the number of people graduating; at Cal Tech, the four-year graduation rate is just 19%. To solve this, California has declared that freshmen will no longer have to sit math and English placement tests!?!?!

23 colleges will be involved in the project that will kick off in 2018; and the aim of this idiotic experiment is to increase graduation rates to 40%. How they think putting ill-prepared kids into classes where they can’t actually manage the workload will possibly bump the graduation rates is anyone’s guess…But at least they will “look” like they’re trying.

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1 posted on 08/07/2017 3:28:50 PM PDT by davikkm
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#### it! Just hand the a degree!!

Saves 4 years of learning nothing.


2 posted on 08/07/2017 3:30:09 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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Expect Idiots, and they will receive idiots...


3 posted on 08/07/2017 3:31:00 PM PDT by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, than it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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at Cal Tech, the four-year graduation rate is just 19%

It is? I'd like to see some data/backup for that stat.

4 posted on 08/07/2017 3:33:51 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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It would be simpler and more profitable if they could just sell diplomas.


5 posted on 08/07/2017 3:34:48 PM PDT by umgud
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I saw this move once. I think it’s name was Idiocracy. I thought it was for entertainment purposes only but I guess not.


6 posted on 08/07/2017 3:35:23 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I bought a house on a one-way street that's also a dead end and now I can't leave.)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Probably because most engineering courses take 5 years. The 5 year graduation rate would be more revealing.


7 posted on 08/07/2017 3:37:18 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

The diagram down the page at this link seems to refute the 19%
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/california-institute-of-technology/academic-life/graduation-and-retention/


8 posted on 08/07/2017 3:37:22 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Probably means to say Cal State.


9 posted on 08/07/2017 3:39:46 PM PDT by Database
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

The College Scorecard reports the CalTech graduation rate for 2014 was 92.3%


10 posted on 08/07/2017 3:39:53 PM PDT by glennaro
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“””””I saw this move once. I think it’s name was Idiocracy. I thought it was for entertainment purposes only but I guess not.””””””””””””

I have Idiocracy in my frequently watched pile. It was meant as a comedy but it is much more of a documentary.


11 posted on 08/07/2017 3:40:31 PM PDT by shelterguy
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College Scorecard: 53% graduation rate for Cal State (combined)


12 posted on 08/07/2017 3:41:32 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: davikkm

19%. So the graduation rate as a percentage of the population is perhaps where it was in, say 1880 or 1950? Could be maybe...?


13 posted on 08/07/2017 3:42:00 PM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Maybe that is for the ones who are remedial students allowed in for diversity purposes


14 posted on 08/07/2017 3:43:07 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: davikkm

Colleges have become the breeding ground for Socialism.


15 posted on 08/07/2017 3:45:50 PM PDT by FrankR
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It looks like the commonly cited 80% Caltech four-year grad rate excludes incoming students who fail to complete required remedial courses, and it of course it excludes students that take longer than four years but still graduate. The remedial courses are not for college credits.


16 posted on 08/07/2017 3:49:14 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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bkmk


17 posted on 08/07/2017 3:55:17 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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HL Mencken’s quote about raising black flags comes to mind.


18 posted on 08/07/2017 4:00:25 PM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL)
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19 posted on 08/07/2017 4:01:00 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jjotto
It looks like the commonly cited 80% Caltech four-year grad rate excludes incoming students who fail to complete required remedial courses, and it of course it excludes students that take longer than four years but still graduate. The remedial courses are not for college credits.

Cal Tech has an 8 percent admission rate. 99 percent of them graduated in the top 10 percent of their high school class. The middle 50 percent scored an 800 on their math SAT and 2240–2340 overall.

I don't think they do much remedial work.

20 posted on 08/07/2017 4:02:27 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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