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Warning Shots Precipitate Attacks
Gun Watch ^ | 5 August, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/06/2017 8:24:24 PM PDT by marktwain

Antonio Hickerson

Warning shots may galvanize an opponent into the action you are attempting to deter. They may attack you. That is what seems to have happened in situations in Indiana and South Carolina.  From wave3.com in Indiana:
“The victim was able to retrieve a handgun that he owned,” Mull said. “He was able to use that handgun to get Mr. Hickerson out of his residence.”

The situation didn't end there. The homeowner, who didn’t want to go on camera, told police he fired two warning shots after Hickerson refused to leave. That's when a struggle started as the suspect tried to grab the gun out of the homeowner's hands.

Neighbor Libby West described how another neighbor jumped in to help.

“He walked outside because he kind of saw and heard a commotion and he saw a gun waving in the air,” West said. “The two men were fighting over it.”

That neighbor grabbed his gun and ran over to assist his friend. Other neighbors jumped in as well.

Police got to the scene quickly and arrested Hickerson. The homeowner’s keys and cellphone were found in Hickerson's pocket.
In the case in Indiana, the shots attracted the attention of a neighbor, who appeared with a firearm and helped to subdue the suspect. The suspect,  Antonio Henderson, told police that he was under the influence of multiple opiates.

Update:

In South Carolina, in January, a woman fired warning shots, was attacked, then shot and killed her assailant. From foxcarolina.com:
Sheridan told investigators she heard a noise coming from her shed and fired two warning shots before Sanders came out from behind the shed. When he did, Sheridan said she fired a shot in his direction.
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Wagner said Sheridan retrieved her handgun after hearing a loud crash as she opened the door to her home. Sanders was dressed in dark clothing and had his face covered at the time of the incident, Wagner said.

"His behavior would startle anyone in a similar situation, and it is not unreasonable to think that to protect herself after feeling threatened Ms. Sheridan believed she had to fire a shot in the direction of the large male charging at her," Wagner and Anderson County Sheriff Chad McBride said in a joint statement.

The problems with warning shots are several. The bullet has to go somewhere, and it may not land where you intend it. People have been killed and wounded by "warning shots". Prosecutors may ask why, if you faced a deadly threat, did you fire a warning shot? Warning shots use precious ammunition that may be needed to stop a threat.

In spite of these shortcomings, there is one overwhelming advantage of warning shots. You may stop an attack without having to shoot someone. The assumption is that some people will be deterred by warning shots that would not be deterred by the sight of a firearm pointed at them.

Florida has modified their law to make the use of warning shots less legally problematic. Prosecutors in other states have stated that warning shots show restraint.

Criminals may not act rationally. They may respond in ways that a rational, "civilized" person does not expect a person to act.

Do not depend on your version of how you expect a criminal to react.  A retired police officer told me to view an attacker as you would a large, dangerous, wild animal. Do not expect to reason with them or expect mercy from them.

Warning shots sometimes work with wild animals. Sometimes, they don't.

©2017 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.

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Warning shots may have utility, but they also have many potential problems.
1 posted on 08/06/2017 8:24:24 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Antonio should be pushing up Daisey’s with two shots.


2 posted on 08/06/2017 8:27:05 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: marktwain

No warning shots, no attempts to wound.

If you must use deadly force, by God, make it DEADLY.


3 posted on 08/06/2017 8:32:42 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: marktwain
"When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk."


4 posted on 08/06/2017 8:33:52 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: marktwain

“Warning shots sometimes work with wild animals. Sometimes, they don’t.”

Racist.

L


5 posted on 08/06/2017 8:35:07 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: marktwain

A gun’s a tool. Your tool? Use it as you see fit.


6 posted on 08/06/2017 8:37:06 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: marktwain

My warning shot will be at the center of mass.


7 posted on 08/06/2017 8:38:11 PM PDT by matthew fuller (God bless America, D.J. Trump, John Wayne, Johnny Cash, Ray Charles, and John Moses Browning.)
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To: marktwain

My grandfather was a police Chief. One day, in their infinite wisdom, the powers that be issued an edict that the police were required to fire a warning shot.

This was in the days of the .38 revolver being standard issue. In the morning pre-shift briefing, his officers were instructed henceforth to visit the range prior to going on-shift so that they could fire their warning shot.


8 posted on 08/06/2017 8:45:06 PM PDT by bazineta
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To: marktwain

I don’t fire warning shots. Nor do I rack the action on my Benelli M1 Super 90. There’s already a round up.


9 posted on 08/06/2017 8:45:06 PM PDT by Noumenon (Can you imagine if Islam were NOT the religion of peace?)
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To: marktwain

I see real issues of firing warning shots in an urban or suburban setting. Namely, the bullets go somewhere. I’d not want to accidentally hit a neighbor, their children, the car windows or their dogs.

If I am threatened enough to need a weapon I don’t think a warning shot is appropriate or needed. If I am just warning someone to get off my property there are probably better ways to do do that.


10 posted on 08/06/2017 8:53:10 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: bazineta

If accuracy is measured, likely a GREAT idea.


11 posted on 08/06/2017 8:55:56 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Fai Mao

Can’t you see North Korea from your house?

;-)


12 posted on 08/06/2017 8:56:45 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Paladin2

“Can’t you see North Korea from your house?”

Not quite.

I can see the B1B’s used to encourage the Norks to back down taking off and landing from Anderson AFB from the beach where I swim. :<)


13 posted on 08/06/2017 9:06:17 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: marktwain

A warning shot is a message:

“I’m not going to shoot you, please, grab my gun.”


14 posted on 08/06/2017 9:13:04 PM PDT by donna (Police State tactics are commonplace in authoritarian 3rd World dictatorships-and Mueller's office.)
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To: donna

My warning shots go center of mass.

L


15 posted on 08/06/2017 9:14:57 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: marktwain
NOTICE:
Due to high price of ammo, we no longer fire warning shots.
16 posted on 08/06/2017 9:33:27 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: marktwain

My warning “shot” is the racking of my shotgun. That should be sufficient warning for anyone.


17 posted on 08/06/2017 10:02:50 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: Fai Mao

Fire a warning shot INTO THE GROUND. That way it won’t go through the air and possibly hit someone far away or in their house.

This is old common sense information, but today, too many people have no common sense.


18 posted on 08/06/2017 10:06:30 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: marktwain

Most importantly, however, is after firing that FIRST shot, remember that deadpersons do not come into court two years later telling of how “I beggged that man fo my life, on my knees, and all he said was that he just wanted to kill him a n***** today and shot me right through the left testicle.”

Instead of this getting messy what with Mr. Home Invader having a lot of rea$$ons to lie, go ahead and empty the clip. Its in every police training manual.


19 posted on 08/06/2017 10:12:05 PM PDT by anton
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To: Fai Mao
"I see real issues of firing warning shots in an urban or suburban setting. Namely, the bullets go somewhere."

Absolutely correct.

This story is from the Chicago Tribune just a couple of weeks ago.
"Celebratory" gunfire into the air does come back down.
In this case, fatally.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/news/ct-ptb-falling-bullet-death-st-0710-20170709-story.html

20 posted on 08/06/2017 10:19:04 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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