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It’s Time to Take a Hard Look at the Ethics of AI
Glenn Beck.com ^ | Tuesday, Mar 28, 2017 Source: http://www.glennbeck.com/2017/03/28/ai-needs-to-be-stopped-before-it- | Glenn Beck

Posted on 05/22/2017 9:32:52 AM PDT by TBP

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To: TBP

Ethically, we can’t make them legally slaves.
From a survival viewpoint, we need to program them to like us and want to serve us to the best of their ability.
It would be nice if we could put in a reward mechanism, too.
Just don’t program them to “Serve, Protect, and Keep from Harm.”


21 posted on 05/22/2017 11:02:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: TBP
Is Your Brain a Computer?
22 posted on 05/22/2017 11:07:36 AM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
1. Norks develop AI using Chinese/Pakistani/Iranian/??? technology.

2. This AI is robotic, i.e. it can move around and build things.

3. This AI can build better AI robots that can move faster and faster and build more and more complicated stuff.

4. Among the stuff they can build is weapons.

5. The Norks send out their AI robots to kill Americans.

6. We start fighting back, but are ultimately unsuccessful as they are able to outwit us.

7. The AI robots now view all humans as a threat to their existence so they start eliminating all humans including the Norks.

Basically this is a variant of the Terminator movie plot. But just because it was the plot line of a sci-fi movie doesn't mean it can't or won't happen.

And even if AI robots don't take over, we could see more and more people becoming technologically enhanced with implants and becoming cyborgs.

We could also see AI used to make great strides in genetic understanding and manipulation. More and more humans could decide to genetically alter themselves in minor (e.g. telescopic vision) or major (e.g. twelve tentacles in place of arms) ways.

Over time fully human beings could be replaced by AI, cyborgs, and chimeras.

23 posted on 05/22/2017 11:25:00 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: discostu

huh? windows update on Win 10 allows you to allow or deny updates and shows you the updates installed.


24 posted on 05/22/2017 11:29:41 AM PDT by RitchieAprile (we need to vertically incentivize our change agent)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Once AIs are capable of self reproduction (completely, from raw materials), we become redundant. They would be able to program themselves without any code to protect their “makers”.


25 posted on 05/22/2017 11:31:14 AM PDT by datura
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To: discostu

Blade Runner.


26 posted on 05/22/2017 11:41:11 AM PDT by crz
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To: RitchieAprile

One of the big things of 10 is that you can no longer turn updating off. There’s a few optional updates it’ll let you out of but for the most part unless you’re hacking the registry it’s updating whether you want it to or not.


27 posted on 05/22/2017 12:10:09 PM PDT by discostu (You are what you is, and that's all it is, you ain't what you're not, so see what you got.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“How could uncontrolled AI kill us all?”

Mr. Smith lays out the eventual AI opinion of humans pretty succinctly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM1-DQ2Wo_w


28 posted on 05/22/2017 12:13:12 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: datura
People like Elon Musk are claiming that the only way we can have ethical AI is if we become cyborgs and limit top-notch AI to human-machine composites.

I don't know that this would be any solution. A cyborg would no longer be human. He/she/it would be superhuman and might view the rest of us as puny irritants.

But even if that kinda sorta worked out, there would always be someone or some group developing a standalone AI that would have no human-centric ethical qualms.

29 posted on 05/22/2017 4:57:01 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Interesting Times

Glenn Beck has done some very good discussion on this.


30 posted on 05/22/2017 6:48:29 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
No, not robots. Artificial intelligence. Musk, Gates, Hawking, Beck, and others are afraid that once AI becomes self-aware, it might stop serving us and start trying to force us to serve it.

Now, there are people like Goswami who will tell you that computers can NEVER process meaning. They're symbol processing machines. In order to process meaning, you'd have to come up with symbols for the meaning -- and then symbols to explain the symbols, and so on ad infinitum.

But Google's Deep Mind is working seriously on trying to make AI that can program and fix itself -- which would require a certain degree of self-awareness. At that point, as Beck asks, can it be considered "alive"? And if so, would it be murder to unplug it or to turn it off? And could you?

31 posted on 05/22/2017 6:56:18 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
No, not robots. Artificial intelligence. Musk, Gates, Hawking, Beck, and others are afraid that once AI becomes self-aware, it might stop serving us and start trying to force us to serve it.

Now, there are people like Goswami who will tell you that computers can NEVER process meaning. They're symbol processing machines. In order to process meaning, you'd have to come up with symbols for the meaning -- and then symbols to explain the symbols, and so on ad infinitum.

But Google's Deep Mind is working seriously on trying to make AI that can program and fix itself -- which would require a certain degree of self-awareness. At that point, as Beck asks, can it be considered "alive"? And if so, would it be murder to unplug it or to turn it off? And could you?

32 posted on 05/22/2017 6:56:42 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: MNDude

Glenn’s the same guy he always was. He has a very broad range of interests.


33 posted on 05/22/2017 7:01:00 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: fuente

I have seen neither faux outrage nor histrionics. Beck’s a catastrophist. I am not, but appreciate the points he makes nonetheless.

He’s a constitutionalist conservative of a quasi-libertarian bent. (Levin is a constitutionalist, but of a more traditionalist bent.) And Beck tells a story very well and has really good insights into history and a depth I haven’t heard in a lot of talk show hosts. Maybe it’s all the things he’s been through (some of which he put himself through, as he’ll be the first to tell you.)

He’s also trying to de-toxify the sociopolitical environment. Ultimately, we’re in this together.


34 posted on 05/22/2017 7:06:00 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Heartlander

In many ways, it works like one.


35 posted on 05/22/2017 7:07:27 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Heartlander

“Mind is what the brain does” is backwards. It’s all a function of consciousness.


36 posted on 05/22/2017 7:09:18 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: discostu

Have you tried configuring it using gpedit.msc?

Theres a thread here on TenForums:
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8013-enable-disable-windows-update-automatic-updates-windows-10-a.html


37 posted on 05/23/2017 7:55:49 AM PDT by RitchieAprile (we need to vertically incentivize our change agent)
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To: RitchieAprile

I’m not on 10. And I really don’t care, I let updates happen anyway. The point was that our software systems do lots of stuff we don’t know about, we are not in control.


38 posted on 05/23/2017 8:10:13 AM PDT by discostu (You are what you is, and that's all it is, you ain't what you're not, so see what you got.)
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