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San Francisco is considering a once unthinkable measure to offset the threat of job-killing robots
Business Insider ^ | May 2, 2017 | Melia Robinson

Posted on 05/02/2017 6:28:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: rey

Our country’s population won’t drop as long as we keep importing unskilled, uneducated third world people. Germany says they need those refugees because their population was dropping, now they’re figuring out that most of them are unemployable and want welfare.


21 posted on 05/02/2017 8:47:23 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FIGHT FOR $15! FIGHT FOR $15!!


22 posted on 05/02/2017 9:02:57 PM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberals would tax the air you breathe if they could. Tax robots? Double taxation on the company producing goods which are taxed when sold. Why not another tax? All so liberal politicians can give away the taxed monies to non-working freeloaders. Yay, isn’t liberal life wonderful.


23 posted on 05/02/2017 9:30:42 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: rey

There’s nothing funny about it, and looms replaced ONE job (at most a small handful) not dozens of job functions that employed a gigantic chunk of workers, many of whom have absolutely no other way to make a living. It is already becoming commonplace for a bottom-rung retail job to have 20-50 applicants as it is. Imagine the backlash when that situation becomes ten times worse due to mass robotization.


24 posted on 05/02/2017 11:34:34 PM PDT by Laser_Ray
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To: Figment

A true luddite would be actually be burning and breaking things you simpering mental midget. The only thing I’ve ever burned is firewood and charcoal.


25 posted on 05/02/2017 11:36:23 PM PDT by Laser_Ray
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To: Laser_Ray

Not everyone gets a post education. I think one of the real threats is these entry level jobs disappear. So you have people who would be really great for a job, never really get a chance to be exposed to it.

I work in a pretty advanced machine shop. I have run the machines before but my real talent is assembly and the ability to solve problems. I got this job after being discharged from the Navy.

I started out 21 years ago running a washer for washing parts. I make a decent wage now and I am appreciated. Some of this automation makes that kind of story more difficult. It is one of the things I worry about for the next generations.


26 posted on 05/03/2017 2:50:23 AM PDT by pennyfarmer (A conservative also conserves his resources.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The tech industry collectively face-palmed when Trump’s treasury secretary said earlier this year that the threat of robots taking human jobs was “not even on our radar screen.”

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That’s probably because Trump is so focused on creating new jobs.


27 posted on 05/03/2017 2:55:41 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Robots are replacing illegals in SF.
Tax them.
A robot tax.

That should work out great.

But what about computers?
They are evil too.


28 posted on 05/03/2017 5:54:53 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Trump "Mexico will pay for the Wall! Mark my words")
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29 posted on 05/03/2017 5:59:44 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Laser_Ray

By your reasoning, Caterpillar Tractor should only make shovels because they displace ditch diggers with their equipment. Actually, think of how many more they could employ if it was mandated they use spoons instead of shovels? Less than 2% of the US populace work in agriculture today, down from 70% in the late 1800s; perhaps farm tractors should go?


30 posted on 05/03/2017 6:42:31 AM PDT by rey
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To: Rusty0604

It will when Mexican labor is priced out of the market by robotics.


31 posted on 05/03/2017 6:43:27 AM PDT by rey
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

They said the exact same thing every time. Remember the Luddites?

There may be something different about this time around, but I’d need some very specific evidence as to why, because cosmetically it looks about the same magnitude as what came before, if not less actually.

In the British industrial revolution, automated shuttle looms were 40x more efficient than human weavers, but that didn’t cause unemployment.

Point to me an innovation today that’s 40x as efficient as a person. I can’t think of anything, even computers haven’t increased productivity that much.

That’s why I think this is no different.

Also, UBI is just communism wrapped up in a package that libertarians & some conservatives find digestible.

They’re experimenting with it in 3 municipalities in Ontario, and it’s a total disaster.


32 posted on 05/03/2017 1:04:38 PM PDT by Thalean
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To: rey

Affluence isn’t correlated with family size.

Rich families tend to have more children than the average American family, and this holds throughout the West.

Furthermore, until very recently, increasing affluence had no impact on family size in America.

What did it was a cultural shift that undermined the family & the widespread adoption of birth control (which itself wouldn’t be an issue, if, again, the family wasn’t demonized in favor of hedonistic depravity).

At least, I don’t think it’s that big an issue in the grand scheme of things.

But yes, regulations & taxes are bad news for business in most cases.


33 posted on 05/03/2017 1:07:51 PM PDT by Thalean
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To: Thalean
"UBI is just communism wrapped up in a package"

I don't know that they're really taking all that much time to wrap UBI in a package.

It seems to me more like communism au naturale.

34 posted on 05/03/2017 1:47:48 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Laser_Ray

True hand wringing luddite I should have said. Robotics won’t destroy all jobs any more than better looms destroyed all jobs. They will actually increase job opportunities for those willing to educate themselves in new technology.


35 posted on 05/03/2017 3:54:07 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Figment

Hey wingnut who said robots would ‘destroy all jobs?’ Oh that’s right, you did. Retard.

What I and others are ACTUALLY trying to point out and you are too stupid to understand is that if robots permanently cut off the bottom rungs of the job ladder (which is likely to happen) there is going to be at best a huge underclass and quite likely riots or a socialist tidal wave.


36 posted on 05/03/2017 6:01:54 PM PDT by Laser_Ray
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To: rey

Wow, first of all Caterpillar uses bigger machines run by humans not robots, so the comparison is invalid right off the bat.


37 posted on 05/03/2017 6:03:19 PM PDT by Laser_Ray
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To: Laser_Ray

“I’m a lifelong nerd and no man can call me a Luddite but to simply sit on our thumbs while people are permanently unemployed by robotics”

There’s your quote . Here’s mine. Tecnology never cost anyone their job , stupidity does every day though. Continue with your proud luddite traditions


38 posted on 05/03/2017 6:40:40 PM PDT by Figment
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