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San Francisco is considering a once unthinkable measure to offset the threat of job-killing robots
Business Insider ^ | May 2, 2017 | Melia Robinson

Posted on 05/02/2017 6:28:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The tech industry collectively face-palmed when Trump's treasury secretary said earlier this year that the threat of robots taking human jobs was "not even on our radar screen."

There is a growing evidence that robots and artificial intelligence could displace huge swaths of the American workforce....

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: automation; california; guaranteedincome; jobs; robots; sanfrancisco; welfare
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1 posted on 05/02/2017 6:28:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How “progressives” become anti-progress.


2 posted on 05/02/2017 6:30:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m a lifelong nerd and no man can call me a Luddite but to simply sit on our thumbs while people are permanently unemployed by robotics - not merely displaced like in the 1800’s - it’s going to lead to severe social chaos if not outright violence. As other Freepers have pointed out, you cannot leave a significant portion of Americans without any real possibility of employment because they got ‘bot-sourced’. Either a Socialist savior will rise up or people will eventually explode in frustration. This isn’t some 4th world dungpit where people just quietly starve.

That being said, I am CERTAIN that the liberal enclave’s ‘solution’ will absolutely suck pig balls.


3 posted on 05/02/2017 6:34:45 PM PDT by Laser_Ray
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is a growing evidence that robots and artificial intelligence demands for $15/hr for entry level jobs could displace huge swaths of the American workforce in the next couple of decades
4 posted on 05/02/2017 6:35:57 PM PDT by digger48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And this is how the Butlerian Jihad begins...


5 posted on 05/02/2017 6:35:59 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“How can we put that money in our pockets?”
...The First Law of progressive governance.

“Nobody talks about the First Law.”
The Second Law of progressive governance.


6 posted on 05/02/2017 6:36:44 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So the machine that makes me a cup of coffee in the lunchroom is a job thief?

Who knew.


7 posted on 05/02/2017 6:38:20 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Good one.
First such reference Ive seen.


8 posted on 05/02/2017 6:40:46 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Laser_Ray

A straightforward conservative response would be to allow the lower capital gains tax only on money that is reinvested.
Reinvested capital creates more jobs.


9 posted on 05/02/2017 6:43:29 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Honestly, automation isn’t really an issue.

It only gets blamed for job loss because people forget about the other side of the equation: output.

Think of it like this: if productivity improves by 5% a year because of automation, you’ll need 5% fewer workers to make the same output, right?

All things being equal, you’ll lose jobs. This is what people think is happening.

But, if output also increase by the same amount, there’s no net loss of jobs. In other words, if the economy grows at the rate of technology, or faster, automation won’t cause a loss of jobs.

That’s why, in the long run, automation hasn’t caused mass unemployment (and it’s been going on non-stop for the last 1000 years). All that’s changed is our prosperity.

That brings us back to the present: automation is being blamed right now because our output isn’t increasing as fast as our productivity. Why? Offshoring.

When we build our new factories in China or Mexico, they get the output, and the jobs, and the jobs we have are subject to erosion caused by automation.

So it’s not really about automation, it’s about offshoring & economic globalization.


10 posted on 05/02/2017 6:44:45 PM PDT by Thalean
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To: Thalean

Some nerd will invent the ultimate viagra pill where you never stop cumin’. Case closed. Trade it for Moozlem oil. No more terror. We get the leftover virgins.


11 posted on 05/02/2017 6:49:06 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: buwaya
Making robots and computers and even pocket calculators to be forbidden and thus stricken from the narrative completely was one of the most genius things in sci-fi history. Frank Herbert was a mind utterly inimitable.

He also thought very little of homosexuality, apparently.

12 posted on 05/02/2017 6:54:50 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

@1’st century luddites


13 posted on 05/02/2017 6:59:45 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Laser_Ray

A true luddite


14 posted on 05/02/2017 7:01:01 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Figment

21’st century luddites


15 posted on 05/02/2017 7:04:36 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Laser_Ray

That’s funny. That’s pretty much what they said about looms. You don’t burn and smash those, do you? (I’d insert a smiley face here, if I wasn’t so computer inept, to show I say this kiddingly with just a touch of seriousness.)


16 posted on 05/02/2017 7:05:15 PM PDT by rey
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To: Thalean

Nonsense. As nations or people become more affluent and wealthier, they have smaller families. Eventually, population will drop. Consider this; there are more people now than ever and waaaaay more mechanical means to do things than ever, yet unemployment isn’t out of control because of that.

Other than certain economic crisis that can affect employment, regulations is a biggies along with minimum wage requirements, mandatory bennies and payroll taxes and insurances. machines are cheaper.


17 posted on 05/02/2017 7:12:27 PM PDT by rey
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To: Thalean
In the past technology allowed people to be more productive, e.g. semis instead of horses and carts.

However, it now appears that technology is capable of replacing people ... permanently.

What is happening now is not your grandpa's industrial revolution.

There is more and more talk of a UBI: Universal Basic Income that will be doled out to one and all so that no one needs to work in order to survive.

Those who choose to work (and can find a job to do) will be free to do so in order to make more money for a better lifestyle.

But an ever-increasing section of the population may be destined to become videogamers, vloggers, and vagabonds.

18 posted on 05/02/2017 7:12:57 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Laser_Ray

So cut off their “human rights” to USG/State’s paid Internet, Phone service, etc., and make them all do volunteer work 40-hours a week if they are on the gov dole - they want utopia well it’s gonna take their sweat and tears too.


19 posted on 05/02/2017 7:26:29 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Regulator

So the machine that makes me a cup of coffee in the lunchroom is a job thief?
= = =

But if you ask your Secy to make a cup of coffee, prepare to meet the guillotine.


20 posted on 05/02/2017 7:51:48 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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