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Tesla Isn’t Going to Lead the Next Car Revolution
Fortune Magazine ^ | April 30, 2017 | Tien Tzuo

Posted on 05/01/2017 2:16:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Tesla made headlines recently when its market capitalization nosed past both General Motors’ and Ford’s to make it the most valuable U.S. automaker. Overall U . S . auto sales are down after last year’s highs, and the Big Three (Ford, GM, and Chrysler) automakers have been turning in lackluster numbers lately. Meanwhile, Elon Musk’s company is on track to sell 100,000 cars this year, after delivering almost 80,000 last year.

So is Tesla poised to dominate Detroit’s Big Three? I seriously doubt it.

Tesla is an amazing company. Its cars have improved suspensions, new top speeds, and autonomous driving—the list goes on. The company has a generational “cool” factor that the Big Three are missing right now....

(Excerpt) Read more at fortune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: automakers; automobiles; automotive; detroit; tesla
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1 posted on 05/01/2017 2:16:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Tesla just came to the maritime college in Maine and hired four of our “hands-on” engineering students. The firm has been going to a good number of colleges and universities and hiring some of the best engineering students around.


2 posted on 05/01/2017 2:43:16 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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Tesla made headlines recently when its market capitalization nosed past both General Motors’ and Ford’s to make it the most valuable U.S. automaker.

How much of that market capitalization was achieved through subsidies from the US fedgubmint with taxpayer dollars?

3 posted on 05/01/2017 3:17:01 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Its cars have improved suspensions, new top speeds, and autonomous driving—the list goes on. The company has a generational “cool” factor that the Big Three are missing right now

They need bells and whistles to compensate for the limited range or delayed range of the vehicles.

4 posted on 05/01/2017 3:35:40 AM PDT by EVO X
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In order for Tesla’s climb in marketshare, infrastructure to support the vehicles will have to be on part with fossil fuel delivery systems. Which will only be realized with expenditure from both customers of energy participants and taxpayers.

Witness the demise of the once lauded hydrogen vehicles. The infrastructure never showed up. Propane has found a home in a few applications but is also restricted.


5 posted on 05/01/2017 3:43:22 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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I have to admit that Tesla sure makes some purty lookin' coal-fired automobiles. A vast improvement in style over the originals ...


Let's keep it a secret that their chic cars are still steam-powered from ( in most cases ) coal. They just managed to push the boilers further out in the distance far out of their sight so that they can carry out their virtue jihad with a clear conscience.

6 posted on 05/01/2017 4:04:31 AM PDT by Democratic-Republican
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“......automakers have been turning in lackluster numbers.....”......

All vehicles, in particular pickup trucks, are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over priced, I am amazed that there are people buying them. If people knew what it really costs to produce a vehicle, they would balk pretty hard at paying such high prices.


7 posted on 05/01/2017 4:29:49 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Clutch Martin
In order for Tesla’s climb in marketshare, infrastructure to support the vehicles will have to be on part with fossil fuel delivery systems.

Tesla pushes people to charge at home and only use the Tesla infrastructure while on road trips. They can use other quick charging networks, but an expensive adapter is needed. It is my understanding big city metro areas down south have some decent quickcharging infrastructure so limited range vehicles like the Leaf can move about. It seems to me when longer range vehicles like the BOLT are the norm they will need to put in new charging locations. The older locations would eventually phase out do to lack of use.

8 posted on 05/01/2017 4:36:46 AM PDT by EVO X
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There are some in rest stops. Which is odd, since the charging time is so long.


9 posted on 05/01/2017 4:45:12 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

MSRP... Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha.


10 posted on 05/01/2017 4:51:08 AM PDT by Mashood
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I suspect those would be quick charge stations.


11 posted on 05/01/2017 4:52:27 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I was waiting for the author to mention dealership franchise laws. Isn't direct to consumer sales Tesla's big obstacle? Here's an article about it.
12 posted on 05/01/2017 5:02:23 AM PDT by neefer (We're walking real proud and we're talking real loud again.)
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I work with batteries.

“Quick charge” is a few hours, and not the best for the life cycle of the battery.


13 posted on 05/01/2017 5:11:01 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: Arm_Bears
How much of that market capitalization was achieved through subsidies from the US fedgubmint with taxpayer dollars?

From Engadget: "Back in 2010, the Obama Administration helped secure government-backed loans for Tesla to the tune of $465 million. The loan has since been paid...." At least Tesla paid it back, unlike Solyndra.
14 posted on 05/01/2017 5:11:29 AM PDT by neefer (We're walking real proud and we're talking real loud again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Repeat after me:
It’s not a car company. It’s a battery company.


15 posted on 05/01/2017 5:18:20 AM PDT by dangus
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>> How much of that market capitalization was achieved through subsidies from the US fedgubmint with taxpayer dollars? <<

Less than zero. The gubmint subsidies kept alive other carmakers who either split investment income (Fisker) or kept empty factories from coming on the market (GM). Nobody only bought a $93,000 car because a government subsidy made it only $86,000.


16 posted on 05/01/2017 5:20:23 AM PDT by dangus
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To: neefer

Thanks for the post. I didn’t realize auto dealerships are a swamp to be drained that currently uses regulations to restrict competition, innovation, and the customer’s best interest. No wonder I despise them.


17 posted on 05/01/2017 5:25:18 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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I’m not a huge fan of electric cars (been through my share of power outages), but I certainly don’t think the laws should be stacked against new manufacturers trying to enter the market.


18 posted on 05/01/2017 5:40:02 AM PDT by neefer (We're walking real proud and we're talking real loud again.)
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But yet, it may be the Germans who get there first with large-scale electric car production. Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen are heavily investing in electric car technology, and the first models with a range of over 500 km (310 miles) per charge could reach dealers by the fall of 2020.

In fact, Volkswagen has shown at least two concept vehicles based on the new Modularer Elektrobaukasten (MEB) platform--a possible successor to the Volkwagen Golf and a true replacement for the Transporter/Microbus/Vanagon minivan.

19 posted on 05/01/2017 5:45:26 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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Repeat after me: It’s not a car company. It’s a battery company.

Perhaps, but I REALLY like the package those batteries come in!

20 posted on 05/01/2017 5:49:57 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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