Posted on 04/01/2017 9:29:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
With the collapse of RyanCare, the Trump administration is looking for a new plan. Were going to need one, since health-care reform isnt going away. At best, we just kicked the can down the road. Were still living with the night of the living dead that is ObamaCare.
Its slowly dying because too few people have signed up for coverage. For younger, healthier people, its cheaper to pay the penalty than to sign up. Thats why Aetna has announced it will drastically reduce participation in public exchanges, as did UnitedHealthcare and Humana. The collapse will accelerate with Trumps executive order to waive enforcement of the penalty.
So fine, kick it down the road, but give some thought to what reform will look like when we have to revisit the issue in a year or two. At that point the status quo ObamaCare wont be an option.
Better still, tackle the problem now.
A do-nothing strategy leaves in place the present system that has raised prices for the insured, and will raise them more until ObamaCare collapses under its own weight. Thats a callous way to treat Americans, and reminds people that the Republicans blew health-care reform.
So what would reform look like? Heres one thats off the table: Ryancare, a plan only an accountant or a right-wing ideologue could love. It left 20 million Americans without health care but cut expenses. Not to worry, said Ryan, were going to have a balanced budget.
I cant imagine a plan better calculated to play to the stereotype of a heartless Republican Party.
That wasnt what Trump promised, in any event. What he said he wanted was a plan that would leave no one uninsured.....
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
The dems having been pushing for this forever
the author seems like a big government conservative.
I will let Democrats pay my healthcare bill out of their personal checking and savings accounts since they are so keen on it.
I’m really impressed with their charity and selflessness.
My last 2 day hospital stay generated a bill of 68,000 dollars.
I’ll forward it to Chucky Sh00mer.
Single payer is a damned nightmare. I cannot think of a single thing good about it. Why is the free market so horrifying to them?
That’s all we need, a free market.
68,000 dollars IS the problem that nobody seems to talk about.
Well, gee, why stop with single payer health care?
I mean, let’s expand it to life, disability and long term care. Why let those pesky pre existing conditions get in the way? INSURANCE FOR ALL
1. If you like your ObamaCare, you can keep your ObamaCare. Now every screaming Leftist loon shuts up.
2. If you don't like your ObamaCare, you can go back to the normal system of buying whatever insurance plan you want, in a free marketplace, with no coercion or punishments from DC. Competition brings prices back down (although probably not to 2009 levels, sadly), and freedom and capitalism are brought back to the 80+% who were worse-off after ObamaCare was inflicted upon us.
3. ObamaCare will be used almost entirely by those who aren't or cannot pay for it, so it will have to be covered by the general fund, since it cannot, in any form, ever be self-supporting anyway. (That's going to be a significant cost, to be sure, but better than the alternatives).
4. If you do not have legal status in the US, you are not entitled to the ObamaCare handout.
Done. Maybe add a line whereby insurers may now pick up those with pre-existing conditions (the one and only good line in the thousands of pages of the ACA). The Left cannot argue against their beloved victims being free to choose to keep it, the Right should be overjoyed that free market capitalism is allowed back in healthcare, Ryan has a flawed DC HealthCare plan to "fix" every year (but thankfully won't impact the non-parasites), and Trump can go back to fixing everything else.
I don’t see why anyone isn’t suggesting a completely new heathcare plan AND let ACA co-exist. You can choose. Repeal all the mandates from ACA. The new plan does what it does and ACA does what it does. If the new plan attracts participants and sucks the life out of ACA, then what’s wrong with that?
HC costs are NEVER going to decline significantly as long as the Feds are empowered to mandate a giant form of umbrella coverage, where 73 year olds have to pay for maternity benefits. They are NEVER going to decline as long as routine office visits are covered. But most importantly, they are NEVER going to decline as long as HC insurance companies are granted their existing franchise to arbitrage 80+% of current HC costs. This is why HC costs are 3-5 times as large as they should be. The government has granted monopolies to the insurers, completely illegally, in defiance of all antitrust legislation passed in the 20’s and 30’s. Lobbyists for these companies wrote the bulk of ACA, so the outcome should be of no surprise. It’s that simple.
Hell No
I have coverage from 3 sources.
1. My retirement insurance which is the worst.
2. Medicare which is the second best.
3. And the VA which is the best.
The last two are single payer...
I almost never use my retirement insurance. They are just as restrictive or more in what they will cover as the single payers and the deductions are much higher.
>Single payer is a damned nightmare. I cannot think of a single thing good about it.
American business wants it, they’re paying through the noise our on current half socialist, not free system. Pushing off on the tax payers would be a big help for them.
>Thats all we need, a free market.
I agree. But I don’t see the votes for it. It was Reagan that started us down this road and it’s only gets worse year after year.
The dems are still too angry at Trump, but if the GOP continues to refuse to pass anything stopping the pain from Obamacare and the dems calm down about Trump, then it might happen. The FC is acting like they’re the only game in town, but Trump’s not an ideologue. He’ll take a bad system that’s better the current system if that’s the best he can get.
Ah, 10th Amendment, the Libtards never knew of ye!
The advantage of “single payer” is only to the politicians. It literally gives them control of life or death issues for everyone.
It’s all about the power to these leftist bastards.
“Single payer” means nobody gets health care. Dumbass idea.
I’d like to give this article the recognition it deserves.
Anyone have some sheets of Charmin printer paper I can print this article on for my morning deuce?
so this moron didn’t see the Vermont analysis that shows why they dropped single payer ?
Yep.
That bill covered 2 hours in the emergency room. About one hour in the cath lab, one day in the ICU, one day in a regular room, a stent, some food, some drugs and cable tv.
The bill for the drugs alone was 2,800, the best of which was the morphine. That part I won’t complain about.
The worst thing about the whole deal was I did not get to eat the french toast breakfast I had ordered for Sunday morning, but I suppose I should be thankful, because that probably would have added somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 grand to the tab.
But luckily, since I don’t actually have insurance since there is no possible way for me to afford it, the hospital reduced the bill to about 17,800 dollars, which I just finished paying of a couple days ago with 6 payments over 6 months of approx 2990 each. YAY! I’m happy that debt is paid. But ouch!
Also had to pay the the surgeon, the anesthesiologist, the ambulance, the emergency room doc, the ultrasound tech, the person who read the ultrasound results, and I think that’s it.
So if I have a third heart attack anytime in the future, I’m kinda hoping it kil... wait, nevermind, I’ll shut up now.
Wow!!! Where do you live?
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>> “The advantage of single payer is only to the politicians. It literally gives them control of life or death issues for everyone.” <<
They think so anyway.
If you want health, the greater the distance between you and the nearest doctor the better.
Herbs and baking soda are health care.
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