Good.
I want Them to pass something, but I want it to be the right thing, or in lieu of that, as close to the right thing as possible.
Ryan’s bill is a steaming pile of dog crap.
If his position is take it or leave it, then leave it.
He will lose Rob Portman, Ohio, if they curtail Medicaid expansion, because John Kasich, Ohio governor, went all in on Medicaid Expansion and made Ohio very vulnerable.
I think he’ll lose Kirk from Illinois for the same reason.
IOW, that’s 2 senators gone. He’ll lose Murkowski over cut off of funds to Planned Parenthood.
That’s 3 senators down.
My guess, they’ll have to keep some level of medicaid expansion for a few years.
Repeal it or let it go bust!
Punish medicaid fraud with life in prison.
That’ll save a lot of money right there. Or at least a little.
I knew guys who didn’t mind doing a nickel or even a dime. It’s the price of their business.
But NO ONE wants to go away for good.
Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell pretend to be conservatives, but they are not even libertarians, they are Democrats in R jerseys.
Trump is negotiating with the conservatives? I don’t see why a conservative would have to negotiate with the conservatives.
I’m beginning to think there won’t be 51 votes available for the bill, whichever form it takes.
The dirty little secret is the Chamber of Commerce and like-minded lobbyists LOVE Obamacare.
Congress-critters don’t like to bite the hand that feeds them.
As I posted on Jimrobs thread the other day, borrowing the “Buckley Rule”, I want:
The most complete repeal of Obamacare and the most conservative, market-based, least-government-involved replacement that we can have signed into law by President Trump in one year.
That provides plenty of time to review alternatives, rewrite what Ryan has proposed, and get agreement on the result by both houses of Congress before the midterms start to loom large. If the Republicans move too fast and muck things up worse, or of they delay and fuss and fight and don’t have anything better ready in about 1 year, it will become a major issue in the midterms and if we lose either the House or the Senate, you can forget about replace and repeal and the Rats will do their utmost to keep Obamacare in place.
So we have time to get it right, but we can’t screw around.
“Ahead of schedule” should be the goal.
just get rid of the entire thing, free markets rule
On 60 Minutes in September of 2015, Trump vowed that everyone would be covered if he won. “I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.” Pressed for specifics, he explained that “people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.” Trump reiterated his pledge that every American would get coverage at a February 2016 MSNBC town hall. “We’re going to take care of them. We’re going to take care of them. We have to take care of them. Now, that’s not single payer. That’s not anything. That’s just human decency.” “You will end up with great health care for a fraction of the price and that will take place immediately after we go in. Immediately! Fast! Quick!” he told supporters at a Las Vegas rally that month.
1. Repeal. Burn it to the ground, effective December 31, so that current plans can continue until expired, and people have time to transition. How much time did they give us when it passed?
2. Eliminate employer tax deduction. Provide individuals with tax deduction for all health care expenses, whether insurance or on a deductible or for uncovered care.
3. Make insurance market interstate. Allow people to join groups for better negotiating position, such as employees of big companies or citizens of a certain city or members of Costco. Whatever. Employment is fluid and not the best place to put the health of citizens.
4. If (and I am not a fan but it might be something needed to mollify the RINOs) you want to be a big kinder gentler Republican, you can have a program to subsidize health care directly to poor people, the ones who this whole charade was supposedly about. You can set up programs at hospitals and clinics where with a card they get health care directly. Or you can subsidize their insurance, in conjunction with state welfare programs, whatever. It would cost a tiny fraction of what Obamacare cost the country.
What else do we need to do? Tort reform, look into pricing on drugs and procedures, work on getting health care back to a free market. Incidentals that can all be addressed later and that don't need to delay action now. Even Trump's inner city programs are involved, because if you give people education and get them out of the Democrat plantations, they will have the money to make their own choices.
Ryan wants to prove that he is smarter than Obama, that he can create a huge government bureaucracy that is a little better. Big deal. That has been the trap of stupid Republicans ever since the welfare state came into existence. We need to blow it up at the foundations.
Repeal all of obamacare ... allow crossing statelines for insurance purchases
This sounds promising.
JR: Working with the GOPe is still risky, of course, but this seems like a positive development.
And is Trump still going squishy on repealing this?
President trump, please refer us to where you ever said Obamacare would be repealed in “phases”? Sorry, but I never once heard you say this!
If you want to be a 1 term President, keep pushing RyanCare!
Here is the current structure under ObamaCARE
Here is the new defined structure under RinoCARE
Obamacare is a turd polished with 110 grit. Ryancare was polished with 220 grit, but it still a turd.
Interesting the Republicans won’t vote for a bill they voted for when Obama was President - complete repeal.