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L.A. officials to ICE: Stop calling yourselves police
CNN ^ | March 10, 2017 | Catherine E. Shoichet

Posted on 03/10/2017 11:23:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

It's a detail that stands out in photos of recent immigration roundups across the country: federal agents wearing clothing that labels them as "police."

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials say it's an accurate word for them to use, and it can mean the difference between life and death in volatile situations.

But elected officials in Los Angeles say they want the practice to stop. When ICE officers call themselves "police," they claim, it's misleading and endangers public safety.

How long has this been happening? What's the debate? And why is it coming up now?

The history

It isn't new for ICE officers and agents to refer to themselves as police.

Photos of operations dating back years show them wearing jackets and vests with that label, usually in large letters that read, "POLICE ICE."

Sarah Rodriguez, an ICE spokeswoman, says ICE agents may sometimes verbally identify themselves as police when they're going into a situation.

"It is the universally recognized term for law enforcement and our personnel routinely interact with individuals from around the world," she said. "In the often dangerous law enforcement arena, being able to immediately identify yourself as law enforcement may be a life-or-death issue."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; deportations; ice; illegals; lapd; lawenforcement; leo; rapefugees; trump
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Not a peep about it while Obama was in office.
1 posted on 03/10/2017 11:23:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 03/10/2017 11:37:41 PM PST by doug from upland (Hey, traitor Democrats. I have a tree. I'm sure another FReeper has a rope.)
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Go with “Policia”! That will drive them crazy.


3 posted on 03/10/2017 11:39:57 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stop calling ILLEGALS “undocumented.”


4 posted on 03/10/2017 11:48:22 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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Tell LAPD to quit calling themselves Law Enforcement then ......

I pretty sure this BS is not from the LAPD street cops . More likely polidiots and the LAPD administrative nut huggers that fly a desk .


5 posted on 03/11/2017 12:13:38 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stop calling 0bama a Constitutional law professor.


6 posted on 03/11/2017 12:21:40 AM PST by TigersEye (We all have a stake in MAGA! We all need to contribute our efforts.)
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Great comeback.


7 posted on 03/11/2017 12:44:09 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: doug from upland

GO POLICE!!!

Just wait until the secret ones get unleashed on the communist bastards.

LOL


8 posted on 03/11/2017 12:53:18 AM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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Federalies
9 posted on 03/11/2017 2:56:17 AM PST by Mark was here (Fake news = "Hands up ... Dont shoot")
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ICE are definitely NOT police nor are they peace officers.


10 posted on 03/11/2017 3:02:17 AM PST by vooch
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If ICE has the power to arrest, stop and question illegal aliens that are committing an illegal act, carry a firearm, use lethal force, etc...then why aren't they considered part of a police force?I bet they receive police training and firearms training and that many are former police officers.

No. I bet this move is more about BS politics and that there are Hispanic police officers and politicians involved. Hopefully Trump cut L.A.P.D. Sanctuary City's slush fund for the protection of the La Razans and Reconquistans that the local Hispanic politicians receive heavy donations from.

11 posted on 03/11/2017 3:22:18 AM PST by jsanders2001
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Los Angeles Fake Police STOOD DOWN and cowardly ran during the Rodney King riots.

Truth hurts. They should instead be called LA Authority.


12 posted on 03/11/2017 3:42:20 AM PST by TheNext (RyanCare is FAKE Healthcare! VETO VETO VETO)
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Somehow I don’t think they will have the same complaint when armed EPA agents knock on your door....when Obama was president...

“Open up I’m from the EPA” just doesn’t have the same ring as police...


13 posted on 03/11/2017 3:52:19 AM PST by Popman
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To: vooch

Ice are not police in the same way immigration law isn’t law.

Thank you for playing.

You may pick up your booby prize on your way off the thread.

Next contestant.


14 posted on 03/11/2017 4:22:56 AM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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Do you consider BATF,(the heroes of Waco), to be police? I would rather consider them unemployed.


15 posted on 03/11/2017 5:23:55 AM PST by Mark was here (Fake news = "Hands up ... Dont shoot")
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“ICE are definitely NOT police nor are they peace officers.”

They are law enforcement so they are police. I guess English is your second language.

Police:
The civil force of a national or local government, responsible for the prevention and detection of crime and the maintenance of public order.


16 posted on 03/11/2017 5:29:08 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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It’s a subtle but important distinction which has been forgotten in the last 15 years. Generally, Peace Officers ( aka Police ) are local constabulary drawn from the local population whose primary role is to keep the peace.

Think Andy Griffin

ICE and other federal paramilitary forces are primarily enforcers who are not drawn from local population and whose role has little in common with Peace Officers.

Think Barney Fife

would be useful to understand the difference. It’s a long American tradition, that’s why Sherrifs are elected in this country.


17 posted on 03/11/2017 5:53:19 AM PST by vooch
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“Think Andy Griffin”

Unfortunately for America, we’ve dumbed ourselves down to using a fictional television show as a basis of our understanding.


18 posted on 03/11/2017 6:04:40 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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fortunately - we have cultural touchstones that all Americans understand.

Andy Griffin or Barney Fife

those distinctions still resonant.


19 posted on 03/11/2017 6:06:34 AM PST by vooch
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ICE to LA officials. We will stop calling ourselves police if you stop calling yourselves honest.


20 posted on 03/11/2017 6:10:47 AM PST by chuckee
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