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Windmills Tall as Skyscrapers Proposed for Rural Michigan County
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 3/3/2017 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 03/07/2017 8:01:30 AM PST by MichCapCon

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To: Ray76

On average, every megawatt of wind generation has to be backed up by at least a half megawatt of controllable generation, be it gas, coal, or other. Why? Because wind is variable and doesn’t follow customer demand for electricity. So, even if wind in some cases is competitively priced (and usually, it is NOT), it can’t compete when the cost of replacement power is factored in.

This doesn’t even factor in the huge amount of land, and the enormous investment in transmission lines needed to get the power from the remotely-located wind farm to the load centers (cities basically).


21 posted on 03/07/2017 8:33:38 AM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: raybbr

Why does the hub appear to continue to spin?

The generator’s inertia should be much less than the ‘force’ of generation.

Driving blades are gone.

But it still spins?


22 posted on 03/07/2017 8:34:19 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: Scrambler Bob

Is it just oscillating?


23 posted on 03/07/2017 8:35:14 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: MichCapCon

Kill more birds!


24 posted on 03/07/2017 8:40:46 AM PST by onedoug
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To: MichCapCon

Imagine the noise from these things.
24/7 WHUMP WHUMP THWACK (hits bird)


25 posted on 03/07/2017 8:41:53 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: MichCapCon

That’s Nucking Futz.

Why in the hell do you need windmills as tall as a skyscraper?


26 posted on 03/07/2017 8:43:39 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: V_TWIN

Know keedean...


27 posted on 03/07/2017 8:44:13 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Takes a while to slow down after spinning uncontrollably like that. (They have brakes on the rotor to prevent this exact thing from happening - Who knew that the wind can blow TOO FAST for these expensive pieces of crap???)


28 posted on 03/07/2017 8:45:52 AM PST by detsaoT
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To: Berosus

From now on, migrating birds better steer clear of Michigan.

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And Texas also as they have 18,531 MW of turbine generators.
Not sure many are as tall as they are talking about in MI.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Texas


29 posted on 03/07/2017 8:50:53 AM PST by deport
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To: Ciaphas Cain

In other news, Don Quixote grows to 50 feet tall.


30 posted on 03/07/2017 8:57:00 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
Monuments to stupidity.

Couldn't learn from the CA experience which has whole wind farms in mountain passes abandoned and rusting in place.

31 posted on 03/07/2017 8:57:21 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

The armature of the generator has a great deal of mass and is on bearings and was spinning pretty fast . It really doesn’t surprise me to see it continue to spin.


32 posted on 03/07/2017 8:59:54 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Vendome
Why in the hell do you need windmills as tall as a skyscraper?

Short answer: Economy of scales. (One big turbine generates a lot more energy than lots of little turbines made from the same amount of material.)

Further, the wind speed increases as you rise above the ground.

Regards,

33 posted on 03/07/2017 9:02:49 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: DungeonMaster

Okay.


34 posted on 03/07/2017 9:06:25 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: alstewartfan

Bats too.
35 posted on 03/07/2017 9:06:29 AM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: MichCapCon

...and just how much of this is subsidized by taxpayers either directly, through increased electricity rates or through tax incentives? What a pathetic joke on the public.


36 posted on 03/07/2017 9:06:32 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: MichCapCon

They aren’t killing enough eagles, so they are building taller to get the high fliers too


37 posted on 03/07/2017 9:08:41 AM PST by Bob434
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To: alexander_busek

Yeah, we have those here at the Altamount Pass and in Palm Springs and those are 400’ish feet tall.

500 feet seems crazy but, I windmills are crazy, as does their perceived benefit...

Then again, Google seems to think they are worth it...


38 posted on 03/07/2017 9:09:25 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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39 posted on 03/07/2017 9:09:32 AM PST by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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To: MichCapCon

Guess they don’t like wildlife up there.


40 posted on 03/07/2017 9:12:05 AM PST by onona (Keeping the faith will be our new directive for the republic !)
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