Savages of Stockholm

Sultan Knish / Daniel Greenfield ^ | 02/24/2017 | Hannah Szenes (@hannah_szenes)

[H Szenes]

If you're the product of an industrialized culture, then you think of a car as a product of work. You realize that it's the product of countless raw materials, that the metals had to be dug out of the earth, that the machines that make it had to be assembled and that men had to stand around putting that into place. And you might be one of those men. And if you aren't, then you might know someone who is.

Civilization is not a product, it's a process. You can't export it. You can ship a bunch of cars to Somalia, but you can't ship the process that makes a culture build a car. You can hand out PhD's to them based on knowledge and test taking skills, but you can't endow them with a respect for ideas. You can set up democratic elections in Afghanistan and Egypt, but you can't export the process that explains why the elections shouldn't be abolished after the side with the most guns wins.

The Western ideal has been reduced to a personal technocratic utopia built on efficiency and it has collided in the night with an Eastern ideal of the clan and a theocratic utopia built on total purity. That is the kind of conflict that the creed of good fences for good neighbors was meant for, but there are no fences tall enough to work it out within a single nation.

Both West and East have their own processes. And both processes are colliding. The Swedes bring their cars and the savages bring their flames. The burning cars are a metaphor for the impact of Muslim immigration on Sweden and the West.

[H Szenes]

Great analogy and analysis - post-nationalism vs. tribalism, process vs. product

[JoeFromSidney]

A lot of truth there. And yet, when I taught in the engineering school at Marmara University in Istanbul, my students were fully the equivalent of those I had previously taught in the USA. Somehow, they managed to shed their culture, at least in class. I really don't know what they did outside of class.

[Pearls Before Swine]

Fantastic, four-knishes, one of his best.

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

Excellent post.

The money quote [to me]:

“After the riots die down and the fires are put out, there will be more talk about integrating them, but what are they being integrated into; a culture that doesn’t resist when their cars are torched? Why would they want to join a culture that leaves you unable to protect what is yours? Why would anyone join a culture that makes you so weak and impotent that anyone can come and take what belongs to you?”

[budj]

All right, this stuff needs to stop - and right now.

The Royal Swedish Ministry of Truth and Social Justice will handle you reprobates.

One of these nights, around 3 am, they’ll come knocking.

[Grampa Dave]

Great oped.

Free Republic has had a lot of great articles posted the violence in Sweden since Potus Trump shattered the bs re no problems in Sweden with their beloved PC muslims.

Below is the shattered reality of Sweden on the rocks, posted on Free Republic in about one week.

http://freerepublic.com/tag/sweden/index

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

Diversity is our strength. Like hell it is.

[confederatecarpetbag]

The Sultan of Knish nails it again. Best segment:

“You can ship a bunch of cars to Somalia, but you can’t ship the process that makes a culture build a car. You can hand out PhD’s to them based on knowledge and test taking skills, but you can’t endow them with a respect for ideas. You can set up democratic elections in Afghanistan and Egypt, but you can’t export the process that explains why the elections shouldn’t be abolished after the side with the most guns wins.”

[Billthedrill]

Excellent article, and thanks for posting. Certain of these comments apply to our own internal savages as well.

It's the outcome of a historical process that is hard to explain to people who were never part of the process. They know how the story came out, but not why it matters.

This explains the annoying recurrence of certain sets of ideas that have escaped the persistence of memory, such as why "from each according to his ability to each according to his need" always fails, and why redistribution is not justice, but injustice. Changing the narrative of how we got where we are doesn't really change the past, it only serves to obscure it.

The native multiculturalists are post-tribal, but the multiple cultures settling there aren't.

Well, they style themselves as post-tribal but in practice I've seldom met anyone quite so tribal as a devout multiculti. Again, stout denial doesn't really change anything but the ability to see past it. Defining oneself as "not-Western" doesn't actually transcend anything at all, isn't a route to superior knowledge, doesn't confer World Citizenship on those who reject their own. It is the path of illusion, and that fellow with the gas can and the Bic is no illusion. That's what his point is, after all.