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Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner Worked to Sink LGBT Executive Orders
Right Wing Story,com ^ | 10 minutes ago | Annie Karni

Posted on 02/03/2017 11:45:29 AM PST by drewh

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To: drewh

So what? Trump +99, -1.

In addition, conservative Court judges will eventually overturn it.

In the big picture, it is inconsequential.


81 posted on 02/03/2017 2:08:50 PM PST by ZULU (Particular circumstances can never be used to justify an act that is intrinsically evil.)
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To: madison10
I did NOT VOTE for Ivanka and Jared.

Neither did I but I also don't believe any more stories when they include:

"But two sources"

That dude named Sources is only the second most quoted guy behind his pal "Anonymous Sources".............


82 posted on 02/03/2017 2:16:24 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: drewh

Something President Trump wasn’t going to do anyway. Fake news.


83 posted on 02/03/2017 2:20:45 PM PST by x
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To: drewh

An absolutely transparent attempt on the part of the media to peel conservative support from President Trump. Float some bogus executive order he never even considered, and then pretend he was talked down by his family. My reaction? FUMSM.


84 posted on 02/03/2017 2:21:14 PM PST by Rastus
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To: drewh

President Trump stated in his inauguration speech that he is for the protection and rights of every American including lgbtq etc. It’s a non-issue


85 posted on 02/03/2017 2:43:52 PM PST by connyankee (#MAGABEGINS)
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To: Pollster1

[[While the LGBTQIM executive orders are both evil and unconstitutional, they are not the place to spend political capital right now.]]

The former victims of the residents of Soddom And Ghomoorah would dissagree


86 posted on 02/03/2017 2:50:11 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434
The former victims of the residents of Soddom And Ghomoorah would dissagree

I was thinking Ecclesiastes 3:1 "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven."

I am well aware that I could be wrong, but my thought is that the nonsense LGBTPML rules are doing far less immediate moral damage than other problems we face today (the rules are not the cause of homosexual activity, just a peripheral response to that activity). The executive orders are wrong, but they are not the first priorities that should be addressed. There is a time for fixing that error, and I hope the right time will be soon, but I am comfortable with a decision that the right time is not this month or even not this year if that allows President Trump to address more problems that are a bigger issue for America and for the free world (both in my view important issues to Christianity).

87 posted on 02/03/2017 4:35:22 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Alberta's Child
The Federal judge in that case was a George W. Bush appointee. Some of us voted for Donald Trump because it was the only way we could effectively say "'Eff you!" to the political establishment in both parties.

I would argue that President Trump can do more by getting his judicial appointments though with less controversy than he can by making this part of the fight an open battle before his cabinet has even been confirmed. I could be wrong, and on this issue especially I worry that I may have misjudged, but I think we make more progress by choosing which fights to have openly and which ones to win by attrition.

88 posted on 02/03/2017 4:38:08 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: drewh

Thank you.


89 posted on 02/03/2017 4:39:16 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: PapaBear3625
I agree. Better strategy is to focus on things which will do long-term damage to the Left, like getting a conservative on the Supreme Court, rather than things which will further mobilize the Left's base against us. It's best, right now, to focus on those things which will damage the Left's elites, while not exciting their troops.

That is how I see this battle. President Trump cannot issue an executive order that will stop all gay activity in the country. What he can do is peripheral - important symbolically but not substantively. It is better to get 2-4 conservative Justices in place, hundreds of conservative federal judges who believe in the rule of law, and a smaller footprint for government as a whole. That weakening of the Left and their source of power will allow us to win on the social issues later, perhaps two years from now or even in the first year of his next term. We lose out on some quick, feel-good wins, but we get more and bigger wins in the long run. I hope.

I am not okay with cutting government "later" as the republicans have always promised. I am more than okay with fighting the necessary battles in the right order, and no one could claim that President Trump is not already fighting and winning several of the battles that we elected him to fight.

90 posted on 02/03/2017 4:46:56 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Alberta's Child

You are so right! Jared Kushner has not shed his socially liberal instincts. He haw no place in the WH. He is there simply to use his in-law status to block Bannon and Conway.


91 posted on 02/03/2017 4:58:15 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Pollster1
If we get to January 2018 and private business owners can still be run out of business for refusing to deal with "gay weddings" without a serious legal challenge in the works in the Federal courts, then I'd say the first year of the Trump administration has been a complete failure regardless of what else it may have accomplished.

Who the hell cares about cutting government or building walls if this is the kind of sh!t upstanding, moral Americans have to deal with?

Does anyone even know how much money the government spent in Sodom and Gomorrah? Does anyone even care?

92 posted on 02/03/2017 6:02:07 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Alberta's Child
If we get to January 2018 and private business owners can still be run out of business for refusing to deal with "gay weddings" without a serious legal challenge in the works in the Federal courts, then I'd say the first year of the Trump administration has been a complete failure regardless of what else it may have accomplished.

Those were a series of purely evil acts, and they were completely reprehensible. They were also all (as far as I know) done by state "courts" and officials, such as Oregon's Labor Commissioner, Brad Avakian. In many and probably most cases, they are outside the authority of the President of the United States, and the primary Executive Branch remedy is the appointment of the federal judges who may eventually assert authority over the dispute.

In the long term, the remedy is https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242 18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law

"Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States . . . shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death."

Eventually, the thugs on the left need to be prosecuted for their crimes against our fundamental rights. I believe that this is not the time for that battle, just for reminding them that their turn for prosecution is coming. I would like to see Brad Avakian, and every similar fascist, spend at least a decade in prison for their abusive actions that denied decent Americans the fundamental First Amendment constitutional right to the free exercise of their religious beliefs. Eventually. But not when that attempt could derail so much more, including the nominations and confirmations of the judges needed for those prosecutions.

93 posted on 02/03/2017 6:36:31 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: dirtboy

Ditto. I read (fake news?) Trump was going to do something for religious freedom next week.


94 posted on 02/04/2017 6:23:47 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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