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It's legal. It's temporary. obama did it. Carter did it. Get over it
Flopping Aces ^ | 01-30-17 | DrJohn

Posted on 01/30/2017 11:07:59 AM PST by Starman417

He did it. He said he would do it and he did it.

The liberal establishment has lost its mind over Donald Trump's making good on a campaign promise to institute "extreme vetting" of immigrants seeking refuge in this country.

Trump's NSC chief's son declares exactly what this is: A "Muslim ban," whatever weasel words his dad and Trump's minions come up with. https://t.co/ncdkXKGVSk— Terry Moran (@TerryMoran) January 28, 2017

The stupid is deep and profound. barack obama did the same thing in 2011. Jimmy Carter did much the same thing. Sean Davis pointed it out and then WaPo's fact checker shoves both feet in his own mouth trying to defend the press's dereliction.

Obama banned all refugees from Iraq. He enforced a de facto ban on Christians from Syria. Media didn't say a word. https://t.co/47jHl181eF— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) January 28, 2017

Kessler then opened his mouth

@seanmdav @FDRLST two big differences: 1) pause was not announced at the time, done quietly. reporters only found out years later. 2) not based on religion.— Glenn Kessler (@GlennKesslerWP) January 28, 2017

And proves that the press has been on its knees for 8 years

@GlennKesslerWP @FDRLST In order to refute my point, you asserted journalistic incompetence under Obama, then begged the question. C'mon.— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) January 28, 2017

"Reporters only found out years later" about what Obama admin did kind of proves the entire point of this exercise https://t.co/spsboFcnTC— Stephen Miller (@redsteeze) January 28, 2017

Now for the good part. For years I have said that liberals have zero long term memory, especially for actions by liberals.

It's time to crank up the Wayback Machine. To absolute astonishment of liberals, Donald Trump is making good on his campaign promises. He did promise he would enact "extreme vetting." Let's look at the responses back then:

Politico: The case for extreme vetting

The many filters that have been used throughout American history to determine who will and will not get an entry visa have an obvious purpose. Yes, some of them, in the hindsight of history, seemed to have had no constructive purpose. But for the most part, they helped to strengthen the social and political fabric of our country and they helped to define the common set of values that distinguishes us as Americans. Or to quote Alexander Hamilton again: “The safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common National sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits.”

So, regardless of what you think about the Trump candidacy, the next time you hear that Trump’s proposal for immigrant vetting is un-American, the correct response is that it is American to its core. And the next time you hear that Trump’s proposal is crazier than crazy, the correct response is that—given the mess the world is in—it is the notion that we should not vet immigrants more carefully that is certifiably insane.

Washington Examiner: Immigrants agree with Trump's 'extreme vetting' plan, terror nation ban
A new survey of immigrants shows that more than six in 10 agree with Donald Trump's call for "extreme vetting" of foreigners coming to America, and even more older immigrants back his plan to stop migration from terrorist nations until the U.S. comes up with a better vetting scheme.
Washington PostTrump’s ‘extreme vetting’ is harsh, but it would be legal
But in advancing a litmus test for entry, a President Trump would be claiming the same unilateral authority so willingly yielded to Obama on immigration over the past eight years. Obama has asserted sweeping, unilateral authority in his opposition to state laws seeking to force deportations. Democrats, including Clinton, enthusiastically supported Obama’s assertion of such unilateral powers in exempting undocumented immigrants from deportations. In doing so, they have laid the foundation for Trump to push for the inverse of those policies. It would be difficult, now, for Clinton to claim that Trump cannot use the same unilateral powers to reduce entries as opposed to deportations.
It is opined that legal challenges to Trump's extreme vetting will quickly fail:
The Congress carved out protection only for a limited class of aliens: those who qualify for an immigrant visa. Even here, the only limits are race, sex, nationality, but no limits on the presidential power to exclude based on religion, terror designations, poor vetting documentation or anything that can be called a matter of “procedure.” All refugees can be legally excluded. All Muslims can be legally excluded. All Sharia law supporters can be legally excluded.

Thus, the federal court is likely to dismiss the CAIR case, as the issues raised go mostly beyond the jurisdiction of the court, a political question in which the Court is the wrong venue for CAIR’s complaints. Another liberal lawsuit loss likely awaits. Maybe the lawsuit lovers would benefit from what former President Obama once reminded us all: elections have consequences.

If Trump haters bristle at Trump's actions, they have one person to blame- barack obama. He made it all possible:

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; carter; immigration; obama; trump

1 posted on 01/30/2017 11:07:59 AM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

So did clinton.


2 posted on 01/30/2017 11:09:07 AM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Starman417

And it is reasonable. And good. And it is only the first amongst many things our new adult leadership is doing to exercise proper responsibility for U.S. national interests and the interests of U.S. citizen. Our immigration practices and administration is a giant cluster in many ways. This is just the start. Hang on. Thank you Mr. Trump for exercising due-diligence which should have been done several administrations ago.

ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS. AND CONCEIVABLY, SO WILL THOSE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND NATIONS TO OUR SOUTH.


3 posted on 01/30/2017 11:12:13 AM PST by mbarker12474
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To: Starman417

LOL! THEY don’t get over it. Can you even imagine had conservatives acted like this after being saddled with the lyin’ king for 8 years? Yeah, me neither cause most of us had to go to work. Free time gives the devil time to work with these miscreants. Here’s a novel idea. How about contributing to society for a change. I know, I know. THEY just can’t bring themselves to do it.


4 posted on 01/30/2017 11:12:55 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Starman417

By the way, Trump should not be using the term EXTREME vetting. What he is getting started in doing is plain ol, ordinary, due-diligence, proper vetting.


5 posted on 01/30/2017 11:14:00 AM PST by mbarker12474
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To: Starman417

It’s different this time.

When Obama did it in 2011, he wasn’t really serious; he did it for appearances during an election year. So it doesn’t really count.

Trump means it, the bastard!

/S


6 posted on 01/30/2017 11:16:04 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: mbarker12474

If those of the Klingon religion are in the process of being exterminated from the lands of those holding to the dominant Romulan religion, should the Federation be barred from interfering on behalf of the Klingons on the basis of Federation law banning interference based on religion?

(Assuming there is such a law.)


7 posted on 01/30/2017 11:17:26 AM PST by mbarker12474
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To: mbarker12474

100% spot on.


8 posted on 01/30/2017 11:18:39 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Starman417

What? So there was a Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 two years before Trump? There was a kind of “Muslim ban” before the Muslim ban? But almost no one critiqued it in 2015 because it was Obama’s administration overseeing it.

So for more than a year it has been US policy to discriminate against, target and even begin to ban people from the seven countries that Trump is accused of banning immigrants and visitors from. CNN even hinted at this by noting “those countries were named in a 2016 law concerning immigration visas as ‘countries of concern.’” But why didn’t CNN note that the seven countries were not named and that in fact they are only on the list because of Obama’s policy?

That list of countries people blame Trump for? obama is the author. And we’re still not done.

barack obama has teed it all up for Donald Trump.

The green card rules have been reversed and I think that was the proper thing to do.

I’ve had some entertaining interactions this weekend. My liberal acquaintances want to vociferously complain about Trump and this legal action he’s taken but the second the truth is introduced- that obama created the list of nations of concern, that obama put a moratorium on refugees from Iraq, that Carter did it too, that obama asked and got a law permitting indefinite detention of Americans, expanded warrantless surveillance of Americans and made killing of Americans without due process possible they shut you down.

They don’t want anything- no matter how true- to put a dent in the safe space world view they’ve constructed for themselves.

Addendum:

I sure wish liberals were as emotional and concerned for US veterans as they are for foreigners.


9 posted on 01/30/2017 11:41:00 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Starman417

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Island

Here. What it USED to take to get into this country through Ellis Island.

They did NOT accept everyone.


10 posted on 01/30/2017 12:21:55 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Starman417

Bookmark for the Wayback Machine references. Good Stuff.


11 posted on 01/30/2017 12:31:10 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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12 posted on 01/30/2017 12:31:51 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Starman417; Secret Agent Man; rktman

Some at Columbia University are not taking is so well:

http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/


13 posted on 01/30/2017 12:55:39 PM PST by Shark24
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To: Shark24

Did they institute and emergency safe place and hand out YUGE diaper pins. Would any of the snowflakes understand what we mean by “diaper pin”? Ammonia pails. LOL!


14 posted on 01/30/2017 12:59:45 PM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Starman417

Hey the income tax implementation is temporary too!


15 posted on 01/30/2017 1:04:06 PM PST by xp38
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