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How Trump can end illegal immigration right now—without a wall (For discussion purposes)
CNBC ^ | January 26, 2017 | Steven Kopits

Posted on 01/26/2017 11:53:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Buckeye McFrog

Work visas are not citizenship.

I have no problem with work visas as long as we have high employment ... but that is not the case right now.

Immigration should be a benefit to us if it happens.
WE should call the shots about who we want in our country, and when, and when it is time for them to leave .... or if we offer citizenship and to who. All the shots called by the citizens, not non-citizens.

EVERY other country does this. I do not understand why this is controversial at all. If you need particular workers, you bring them in. If you don’t, you don’t.


41 posted on 01/26/2017 2:26:08 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I really like this idea...but don’t agree about eliminating the need for a “wall”.


42 posted on 01/26/2017 2:33:45 PM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cut all welfare and food stamps and free education and medical care for non life threatening situations.

Cut the gravy train, and they’ll ship themselves back.


43 posted on 01/26/2017 3:24:24 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Lopeover

Ever heard of the medieval tactic called “sapping”


44 posted on 02/01/2017 10:10:39 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Discussion? Really? We spent the last 2 years discussing it. The wall will work regardless of who is in office. It is apolitical. THAT IS WHY WE NEED IT.

Without the wall being built during his tenure, Trump will have had a failed Presidency. He knows it.

45 posted on 02/01/2017 10:14:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He is buying into the idea that the poor sweeties just want to come here to get an honest job.

He should sell that idea at it's market value. About $0.005.

46 posted on 02/01/2017 10:19:45 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Lopeover

It’s been proven that these guys are constructing underground tunnels for decades. Sometimes into buildings on the other side of the border. Don’t know if we can ever really stem the flow of drugs into our country.

The wall can be a great revenue builder at a national monument. I’d certainly make a visit.


47 posted on 02/01/2017 10:20:28 AM PST by TermLimitsforAll (Term Limits and Walls, that's a start)
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To: Organic Panic

Yes, make it more costly with financial penalties to hire illegal aliens!


48 posted on 02/01/2017 10:21:01 AM PST by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: TermLimitsforAll

Oh yup we can stem the tide of drugs and/or the American druggies can immigrate to Mexico!


49 posted on 02/01/2017 10:22:34 AM PST by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: Salvavida

I would add, that we need to deal with illegals’ widespread use of fake ID, by using technology to definitely identify them. You get arrested, besides fingerprints, you get retina scanned, iris scanned, and get DNA taken, and it all goes into a database.

You get caught as an illegal in the US, the first time you get dropped off at the Mexican border. The second time, at the southernmost end of Mexico. The third time, you get dropped off in a plastic boat off the coast of the southernmost tip of South America.


50 posted on 02/01/2017 10:27:22 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In my line of work, construction industry, the numbers of Mexican and Central American workers is astonishing. They work like dogs for less than what many would work for.

I background check and E-verify but I don’t have confidence that the information submitted is factual. I have to in good conscience be selective in whom I hire even when all procedures are giving me the green light. Bottom line is the system has to be fixed in order to have these guys self deport. Otherwise they’ll always have work.

Side note: Unfortunately in my experience when I’ve hired some who are indeed red blooded Americans the work ethic is sub-standard for many. Maybe 5-10% of my workers put in a days work comparable to my verified workers originally from south of the border.


51 posted on 02/01/2017 10:27:30 AM PST by TermLimitsforAll (Term Limits and Walls, that's a start)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1. No benefits
2. Fine companies that hire them


52 posted on 02/01/2017 10:27:49 AM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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