Adjuvant Load Vaccines and the Link to Symptoms of Autism in Children

The Coach's Team ^ | 1/18/17 | Suzanne Eovaldi

[flaglady47]

Hmmm, I wonder if Trump’s interest in vaccines as a possible source of autism and his interview w/Robert Kennedy re a possible advisory position re vaccines/autism, feeds into the meme that his son Barron might actually have autism. A curiosity about why Trump interviewed Dem Robert Kennedy about this subject.

[Liberty Tree Surgeon]

With absolutely zero proof... really means "I haven't researched this topic and only go with what the media and my doctor tells me."

Because there's plenty of evidence that has been suppressed/ignored due to there being HUGE money involved for Big Pharma and pediatricians. You can also go read the public records of the US vaccine court (google it) and have your eyes opened. Lots of people killed and permanently disabled by vaccine reactions. Many of which could be prevented with screening (genetic predisposition), spacing, and (potentially) a review of the ingredients.

You also may be blessed with not suffering or having a family member who suffered from such a reaction (I have). If so, give thanks for that, but don't then turn around an dismiss people who know there's a problem.

[namvolunteer]

I can’t understand appointing RFK Jr, the world’s most pampered, unserious, opiate-challenged idiot.
The only successful, long-term effort he is known for is destroying his wife.

[YogicCowboy]

If the official story being promulgated by the propagandists is true, then why has there been such a need for a semi-secret Vaccine Court since the 1980s?

To wit: The Office of Special Masters of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, which administers a no-fault system for litigating vaccine injury claims. Apparently, it operates under the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Health Resources and Services Administration, and is called the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP).

I say it is hush money.

[YogicCowboy]

You are correct.

The collusion between the government, the media, and the corporations (i.e., fascism) is virtually complete.

They decide if an issue is valid or not. Actual evidence is irrelevant; what is relevant is money and power.

They decided that the Barack Obama Birth Certificate was a non-issue. They decided that the Vaccine-Autism Link was a non-issue.

[Basket_of_Deplorables]

"as a person practiced in the art of biotech...been at it for some 30 plus years, I can tell you that you are wrong and really don’t know what you are talking about...

As a scientist in medtech for 30 years (and often employed as an expert witness in legal cases), actually, I do know what I'm talking about.

...look at the Danish data and the Japanese data for MMR vaccinations which make a VERY compelling epidemiological case for some correlation with autism...

OK, I just did. Japanese data here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16865547

"J Autism Dev Disord. 2007 Feb;37(2):210-7. MMR-vaccine and regression in autism spectrum disorders: negative results presented from Japan. Uchiyama T1, Kurosawa M, Inaba Y. Author information Abstract It has been suggested that the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR) is a cause of regressive autism. As MMR was used in Japan only between 1989 and 1993, this time period affords a natural experiment to examine this hypothesis. Data on 904 patients with autism spectrum disorders (ASD) were analyzed. During the period of MMR usage no significant difference was found in the incidence of regression between MMR-vaccinated children and non-vaccinated children. Among the proportion and incidence of regression across the three MMR-program-related periods (before, during and after MMR usage), no significant difference was found between those who had received MMR and those who had not. Moreover, the incidence of regression did not change significantly across the three periods. "

From here: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html

There is no link between vaccines and autism. Some people have had concerns that ASD might be linked to the vaccines children receive, but studies have shown that there is no link between receiving vaccines and developing ASD. In 2011, an Institute of Medicine (IOM) report on eight vaccines given to children and adults found that with rare exceptions, these vaccines are very safe. A 2013 CDC study [PDF - 204 KB] added to the research showing that vaccines do not cause ASD. The study looked at the number of antigens (substances in vaccines that cause the body’s immune system to produce disease-fighting antibodies) from vaccines during the first two years of life. The results showed that the total amount of antigen from vaccines received was the same between children with ASD and those that did not have ASD.

Danish data analysis here: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/112/3/604

Pediatrics September 2003, VOLUME 112 / ISSUE 3 Thimerosal and the Occurrence of Autism: Negative Ecological Evidence From Danish Population-Based Data

So both your data sets plus the CDC show no correlation, Mr. person practiced in the art of biotech.

Finally, wikkipedia has a pretty good article regarding the whole vaccine-autism controversy. While politics and wikkipedia are a proven bad mix, this one is not political, and seems quite decent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy

Life is risky, and nobody gets out of here alive. Vaccines increase the risk of certain illnesses; not getting vaccines absolutely increase the risk of definite, serious illnesses in kids, including disfigurement and death. And epidemics. The false mercury autism link has been debunked over and over again. Stupid should hurt. Skip all your own vaccines. But if you skip your kids vaccines, you are an idiot.

[Liberty Tree Surgeon]

Please reply to my thread if you're going to include me in a reply, since I didn't point to any of the Japanese or Danish data - I pointed to the actual US Vaccine Court documents anyone can read on the internet. Included in the cases are examples of the Vaccine Court finding for the "plaintiff" that a vaccine was the cause of a child's autism. There's your proof.

Would also be helpful if you can explain why only TWO industries have received blanket immunity from lawsuits in the country by acts of Congress - vaccine makers and tobacco companies.

Finally, can you explain how an informed adult can skip vaccines but should then turn around and vaccinate a child who cannot give informed consent makes logical sense?

[TheNext]

The fallacies are your own words.

I too am a scientist. Zero mistakes are required in human safety issues. Zero means 0.0000001 mistakes.

It is not, zero + a few ego fallacies. Ego fallacies hurt real children. “30 yrs” is another fallacy of authority.

You just made public errors, on record. This is the problem with “Vaccine scientists”. Whenever I debate a “Vaccine scientist”, they are easy to trip up into fallacy, and usually within the first paragraph.

It is because you all never debate a real scientist. You always have personal issues, most people do, that cloud reasoning.

If it is so easy to trip experts into fallacy, why would a parent inject those chemicals into their child’s veins. The “Science of Uncertainty”, actually, it is just your opinion. And opinions hurt people. The domain itself determines if vaccines are provable or not, not experts.

And the domain is unprovable. I hear what you say but the debate goes around and around, because the domain is highly uncertain.

Any parent undecided about Vaccine, remember here is a real vaccine scientist enmeshed in fallacy. Ask yourself,

is that the fallacy that will damage my child??

It only takes 1 single fallacy to harm your child permanently.

Sorry to be brutal, but childrens lives are at risk. They rank higher.