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To: Lorianne

For 7.9 years of his administration...defense of Poland or the east European states...was a ‘no-go’. One can only be amused by this 30-day gimmick that is unfolding. Go back to the week prior to the November election...any announcement of a troop deployment? See any discussion or plans laid out?


2 posted on 01/14/2017 9:31:16 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

And then leaving town “to an undisclosed destination.”


9 posted on 01/14/2017 9:50:06 PM PST by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: pepsionice

The Poles are very happy about it.

Poland rejoices as 3,500 U.S. troops arrive to deter Russia

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/01/12/poland-rejoices-as-3500-us-troops-arrive-to-deter-russia.html


16 posted on 01/14/2017 10:26:17 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: pepsionice

No $hit.


28 posted on 01/14/2017 11:33:07 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: pepsionice

This is a really complicated issue. I think it is important to give it perspective. These are just some of my thoughts on this:

1.) 2009 thru 2012 - Obama scraps the Eastern European missile defense shield, attempts Russian reset and to strike what people call the grand Russian bargain. Similar in scope to middle east peace.

2.) Back in 2012 Obama scoffed at Romney’s assertion that Russia was our number one external threat. That is debatable. It could be China, Al Qaeda, ISIS, etc. Obama and Clinton/Kerry begin Asia Pivot.

3.) Obama is re-elected. He makes a strategic error to turn his campaign rhetoric into policy and ignore Europe. Essentially turning it over to the EU and NGO’s. This is crucial because it feeds into the Russian narrative of the regime change mentality of Obama. Arab Spring serves as backdrop, including Libya (and now Syria).

4.) 2014 - Putin, sensing an opening as well as feeling threatened by U.S. regime change policy considers Ukraine the last straw and annexes Crimea. The debate on whether Ukraine was a western-backed coup or internal uprising is irrelevant. The pattern is already well established.

5.) Obama is made aware of his strategic error by whatever levelheaded advisor (they’re not all homos, trannies and NWO globalists)confronts him. And to avoid Eastern European allies from either making deals with Putin or furthering the militarization of the EU realizes that an American show of force is necessary.

6.) Summer 2016 - Deployment of U.S. forces to Poland is announced. They will spread out from Poland to the Baltics and other nations.

7.) If you listen to Trump he’s essentially said two things. One: NATO needs to up its contributions, and he’s against Obama’s regime change policy (phrased as endless wars, etc.) This has been interpreted by us, incorrectly, as Trump repudiating NATO as part of an anti-globalist stance. Not true.

The NATO alliance is crucial in order to avoid European chaos. Despite what we all think, Putin needs to be kept honest (trust but verify). This deployment does achieve that goal.

It is irrelevant that it was initiated under Obama’s watch. It’s not enough to just laugh at his stupidity or to blame him because of his policies. He screwed up and is trying to fix it. We shouldn’t be in this mess, but we are. The time for recrimination has passed. He is gone in five days.

This is what is really going on. With all of the bullsh*t stripped out of it.


29 posted on 01/14/2017 11:40:55 PM PST by JPX2011
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