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How the Baker Rifle shaped the way we Fight with our Rifles
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 1/3/2017 | J Hines

Posted on 01/03/2017 12:27:14 PM PST by w1n1

It all started with the Baker Rifle and the British 95th Rifle Regiment
The defining moment for rifles in the western world was when Rifleman Thomas Plunkett serving with the British 95th Rifle regiment took a shot with his Baker rifle towards the end of the Battle of Cacabelos in 1809.

Rifleman Plunket laid flat on his back in the snow took a shot at the French General Auguste-Marie-François Colbert.

While he lay on the ground, Plunket inserted his foot into the sling of his Baker .705-caliber rifle to stabilize the weapon, the butt of his rifle flushed into his shoulder and took aim using only his marksmanship skills and iron sights.

Plunkett squeezed the trigger, and a moment later the general fell dead at 600 yards away. Then Plunkett reloaded and ran back to cover and took another shot that killed a second French officer who rode to Colbert’s aid.

This feat catapulted the capability of the basic firearm used by a soldier, led by the Baker rifle. The Baker rifle was not the first rifle invented, as there were other muskets used in the previous century with less accuracy. The Americans and Germans learned ways to use it with deadly effectiveness. Read the rest of the story here.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: bakerrifle; banglist; muzzleloader; snipers
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1 posted on 01/03/2017 12:27:14 PM PST by w1n1
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To: w1n1

Yikes! Great post...

T Y for posting...


2 posted on 01/03/2017 12:32:02 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: w1n1

.705 caliber....my, My, MY!


3 posted on 01/03/2017 12:32:55 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: w1n1

Great Post!

4 posted on 01/03/2017 12:38:26 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: AnalogReigns

That’ll leave a mark.....


5 posted on 01/03/2017 12:42:38 PM PST by tgusa (gun control: hitting your target.)
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To: w1n1

American long rifles were used decades before in this manner. We changed the way rifles were used.


6 posted on 01/03/2017 12:43:05 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: AnalogReigns

The American rifled Musket, used in the war between the states, was .68 or .69 caliber.

Some rifles were small caliber, say, .45. Now that is considered “large caliber”!


7 posted on 01/03/2017 12:45:41 PM PST by marktwain
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To: w1n1
How's this for a word....

'This proved to be an embuggerance of the highest degree,.........'

8 posted on 01/03/2017 12:47:06 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: AnalogReigns

Basically 12 gauge(a little less) or more correctly 12 bore. It was the size of the smooth bore muskets of the day. Using a round ball that size is not as impressive as it sounds. But It it still is quite impressive.

With the same bore smooth bore you like the Brown Bess one could launch 4 rounds per minute. The Baker? 2 rounds per minute. It is a specialty weapon used for sniping. We did the same thing with the Kentucky (or more correctly Pennsylvania ) Rifles.

A better British rifle of the era was the Ferguson breech loaded rifle.


9 posted on 01/03/2017 12:47:42 PM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: w1n1

A private picks off a general. Too much power in the hands of a common soldier! Unseemly!

(That was the prevailing view in those days.)


10 posted on 01/03/2017 12:48:05 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Vinnie
This proved to be an embuggerance of the highest degree,..

I'm stealing it. If it wasn't a real word before, it is now.

11 posted on 01/03/2017 12:48:43 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: w1n1

I just finished watching the Sharpe’s Rifles series. Good stuff. A sergeant of the 95th Rifles rises through the ranks to Colonel with lots of adventure along the way.


12 posted on 01/03/2017 12:50:42 PM PST by Chuckster ("Them Rag Heads just ain't rational" Curly Bartley 1973)
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To: w1n1

If you study history you will find that after the rifle can along and American revolutionaries begin the practice of shooting generals and other officers without regard to their status in society that the wealthy and privileged gradually withdrew from leading troops directly in the field.


13 posted on 01/03/2017 1:00:40 PM PST by WMarshal ( Schadenfreude, it feels so good!)
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To: Vaquero

Although the musket had a higher rate of fire, how many accurate shots could a rifle shoot before the other side got within effective musket range? And how many musket shots would actually get fired before the other side either charged to bayonet range, or ran out of musket range?


14 posted on 01/03/2017 1:01:20 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: w1n1
"The British may have learned these hard lessons about rifles in the hands of skilled marksman during the ‘American Revolution’."

Ya think? In addition to the Battle of Saratoga being won by a rifleman killing British Gen. Fraser, so too, the Battle of Kings Mountain (1780)--which turned the tide of the war--was won by riflemen (plural) vs. muskets. The loyalist with muskets atop the knoll were no match for the patriots below, in the trees with long range rifles. (The irony is their commander, one Fergusson, had actually invented a practical breechloader....but it was ignored by the British high command.)

Use of a patched ball easily pushed in by a ramrod (vs. one hammered in, like the German Jaeger rifle was), was an American innovation--first allowing fast reloading for rifles. Before this, with slow reloading, rifles were impractical to use in warfare.

It was the Baker rifle which copied the American Pennsylvania Long Rifle--especially in using the patched ball, which revolutionized warfare first in the American Revolution--which continued the evolution to rifles, not the Baker Rifle itself.

The fact that the Baker Rifle was mass-produced...was all that was revolutionary about it--not that it was a rifle--as rifles were first proven in warfare right here in America.

15 posted on 01/03/2017 1:03:40 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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“What are ye doing there Rifleman Plunkett?”

“Why, I yam pickin’ off French Generals at 600 yards, Sergeant.”

“Wid yer eyes closed, you lazy sod? Get up off your arse and reload.”


16 posted on 01/03/2017 1:04:36 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Ralph, you’ll shoot your toe off.


17 posted on 01/03/2017 1:07:33 PM PST by Sasparilla (I 'm Not tired of Winning)
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To: w1n1
The Baker was used by skirmishers to remove leaders of the other side, and was valuable for that reason only. Napoleon scoffed at the rifle, and his officers and noncoms paid the price.

The true power of the British army was the ability to fire three rounds a minute, in ranks of 2 or 3 (something that could only be done with muskets, as rifles took much longer to load). They were the only army of the time to practice with live ammunition, instead of just going through the motions. The effective range of those muskets was only about 40 yards. That devastating volume of fire broke the backs of the French columns, and eventually won the Napoleonic Wars for Britain and her allies.

The Richard (Dick) Sharpe series are wonderful books for getting a solid understanding of the tactics, equipment, training and overall strategies of the time.

18 posted on 01/03/2017 1:23:55 PM PST by ibheath
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To: elcid1970
"A private picks off a general."

"Son, they couldn't hit an elephant in ass at that range" - Last words of Union General John Sedgwick, battle of Spotsylvania Courthouse.

19 posted on 01/03/2017 1:24:58 PM PST by circlecity
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To: elcid1970

I also didn’t think they were supposed to shoot at officers either.


20 posted on 01/03/2017 1:28:56 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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