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Trump won votes promising to protect veterans, but major veterans groups are rattled by his plans
The Los Angeles Times ^ | December 22, 2016 | Evan Halper

Posted on 12/22/2016 4:08:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: rcofdayton

> I recommend trimming way back those who are eligible.

Trump didn’t run on reducing care for veterans.


21 posted on 12/22/2016 4:41:41 PM PST by GJones2 (Reducing care for veterans)
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To: spintreebob

When I surveyed my local Legion after separating several years ago, all I found were Sons of the Legion kicking back beer after beer in a dark and dank basement bar at their Hall. I decided to ultimately go my own way after that little experience.


22 posted on 12/22/2016 4:41:57 PM PST by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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To: spintreebob

When I surveyed my local Legion after separating several years ago, all I found were Sons of the Legion kicking back beer after beer in a dark and dank basement bar at their Hall. I decided to ultimately go my own way after that little experience.


23 posted on 12/22/2016 4:42:10 PM PST by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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To: Gasshog

Amen! Just toss all VA hospitals and allow us Veterans to go private. The VA covers the cost. Simple.


24 posted on 12/22/2016 4:43:44 PM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course the left wants to keep the VA system unchanged.

It’s a single payer system.

Crap treatment, but no one can buy up to a better grade of care through supplemental insurance, as one may do under Medicare. So it’s “fair”.

It is the left’s model for the entire US health system.


25 posted on 12/22/2016 4:43:55 PM PST by oblomov (We have passed the point where "law," properly speaking, has any further application. - C. Thomas)
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To: AndyTheBear
"Why do I have the strong intuition that this reporter is trying to create a rift rather than report on one?"

That's the job of the MSM these days, isn't it?

26 posted on 12/22/2016 4:44:10 PM PST by blam
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is another “L.A. Times Fake News” article...The Military hate Barky, they cannot wait until President Trump is their Leader...or did you forget the Army, Navy Game and watched how much they love him already???


27 posted on 12/22/2016 4:44:11 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: AndyTheBear

Exactly.


28 posted on 12/22/2016 4:44:14 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: rcofdayton

I agree. The system is clogged with many less than legitimate health concerns. It has been many years since an enlistee was guaranteed health care for life. Those that complete a minimum of 20 years, and those that have on-going service connected disabilities should be the priority. Combat related conditions (for life) should be the number one priority. All beyond those three considerations should be standby/space A.

Civilian health resources should be used where appropriate and the VA needs to clear out its underbrush and massive bureaucracy. With civil service being what it is, reform is difficult to impossible.


29 posted on 12/22/2016 4:45:14 PM PST by whistleduck ("....the calm confidence of a Christian with 4 aces".....S.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve had excellent VA support from the Biloxi, Mississippi facility.


30 posted on 12/22/2016 4:46:06 PM PST by blam
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To: Rusty0604

I am 100% service-connected and I chose private health care over the VA any day of the week. That includes dental and vision.


31 posted on 12/22/2016 4:46:28 PM PST by zaxtres
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These kinds of hand-wringing articles will dog Trump through his presidency.

If he does X, that is horrible.

If he does Y, that is terrible.

If he does Z, he should have done X or Y instead.

Best to turn off the network/cable news and ignore the MSM for the next 8 years.


32 posted on 12/22/2016 4:47:04 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: zaxtres

The VA is not “healthcare” as in what is termed as “healthcare” outside of the VA. When more people start catching onto this fact they will understand. I had an accident in the military... it ruined my life. I got benefits from the VA and they ruined my life more than the accident could ever. They thought they knew what was best for me when they had no clue what they were even talking about when it came to technology.


33 posted on 12/22/2016 4:50:47 PM PST by zaxtres
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To: nhwingut
And I love how they toss in the spooky Koch Brothers

The past election cycle here in Michigan, there was a Democrap ad that for the first 2/3rds of the ad, they focused on the evil Koch Brothers and how they and their evil oil were responsible for polluting the rivers and streams here in Michigan. Then the last 1/3rd of the ad was about the republican representative running for office and that her campaign was being funded by the evil Kochs........LOL!

34 posted on 12/22/2016 4:50:50 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: nclaurel

He thought if you called sailors “soldiers” that he was complimenting him. Except, it is very insulting.


35 posted on 12/22/2016 4:52:02 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What are the specifics that they assume he is going to make and are objecting to? I can’t bring up the article...


36 posted on 12/22/2016 4:55:55 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The new head of VA will have a large order to fill. Final ruling on whether or not to add hypertension to list of “Presumptive Agent Orange Illnesses.” The burn pit studies will begin to unfold. The huge backlog in claims/patient care/waiting lists and nursing homes. Endless problems.


37 posted on 12/22/2016 5:12:52 PM PST by donozark (Attention Bella and Gigi Hadid: PLEASE stop fighting over me!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
#fakenews
38 posted on 12/22/2016 5:13:20 PM PST by SoFloFreeper (Isaiah 25:8)
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To: castlegreyskull

Oh I always thought he was just an idiot!


39 posted on 12/22/2016 5:14:23 PM PST by nclaurel
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To: whistleduck

> Those that complete a minimum of 20 years, and those that have on-going service connected disabilities should be the priority.

What about those already retired — in their 70s, 80s, and older, with retirement incomes below the poverty level — who can’t afford to pay the supplemental insurance payments for Medicare? They retired with the understanding that they had enough to subsist, if not to live in comfort. Now, at an age when they have little chance of working to support themselves, do you support dumping them into the rest of the indigent population, in many instances causing them to lose their homes or not be able to pay rent, in effect, putting them on the street?

“Sorry, veterans, we changed our minds. ‘Thank you for your service’ and all that, but you old bastards need to get off your duffs and earn a living!”


40 posted on 12/22/2016 5:15:05 PM PST by GJones2 (Reducing care for veterans)
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