Posted on 12/20/2016 7:41:22 AM PST by w1n1
Back around 1070, one of the gun magazines had an article about 1911s made in blacksmith shops in Viet Nam. crude, rude, but the fired.
Guns and Ammo magazine about that time also had an article about guns made behind prison walls in the USA. Several were semi auto including one with prison made cartridge cases and bullets. I would post them but Photobucket is giving me problems.
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Most of the bogus guns that I have known of come from Brazil, not the Philippines.
Molybdenum and antimony are readily available in east Asia.
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>> “So, are these guns somehow dangerous like the old Saturday night specials?” <<
The thing that the anti-gunners found to be dangerous about “Saturday night specials” (their fake title actually) was that they were affordable, and even their manufactured underclass could afford to own one.
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Most of the bogus guns that I have known of come from Brazil, not the Philippines.
Fascinating. I must be missing out on the Brazil small shop guns. I know they make a lot of small shop sub-machineguns for the black market there.
Please educate me on the Brazilian bogus guns. I am serious. This is a subject I am very interested in.
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Guns made in prisons tend to be “zip” guns.
They are powered by strong springs, and propel ball bearings and short bits of metal rod.
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I didn’t know that. I had visions of guns exploding in people’s hands when they pulled the trigger.
Several were semi auto including one with prison made cartridge cases and bullets.
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I don’t think they’re made in small shops; they usually are sold in sporting goods stores and sport some fake name.
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>> “I didn’t know that. I had visions of guns exploding in people’s hands when they pulled the trigger.” <<
That happens too!
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I’ve got a photo of a .45 ACP pen gun. The owner tried to fire it by aiming down the pen and pressing the button.
He forgot one rule of physics. “Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.”
The photo shows him on a slab in a morgue with the pen firmly embeded in his eye socket and brain.
***Brazilian bogus guns***
I’ve got articles about them from old gun magazines from forty five years ago. One shows a small .22 pistol hand filed from a piece of railroad track.
First time I tried to fire my 30-06 I noticed I had the scope planted firmly against my eyebrow.
I pulled it away before pulling the trigger. :-)
Ten years of gunsmithing old firearms.
Look, go ahead and shoot this stuff. Knock yourself out, smart guy.
And after a KB we'll just call you "lefty".
Let’s not forget those “nice” Ruby/Eibar pistols made in home workshops in SPAIN back in the 1930s!
Spain still has to live that reputation down!
I currently own four 1911s and used to own a Glock 17, Other than a barrel and trigger, there’s zero similarity between a Glock and a 1911.
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Most scopes have lots of parallax if your eye is too close to the eyepiece.
Your aim is better if your eye is back some.
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Well, I did say that the Glock was an improved Browning Hi Power design.
Similarities.
Both Glock and the Hi Power use the Barrel/Chamber in the ejector port as the locking lug.
Both Glock and the Hi Power use the tilt barrel unlocking system.
Both Glock and the Hi Power use staggered box detachable magazines, released with a behind the trigger guard release.
Both Glock and the Hi Power use a recoil spring under the barrel to power the return of the slide.
There are differences, to be sure. Glock has an improved fire control system, using a striker, without an external manual safety or magazine safety.
Glock used the best modern materials of the time. The composite frame is lighter, cheaper, simpler, and corrosion resistant.
The Hi Power derived a lot from the 1911, but it is a much improved design. No barrel bushing (same as the Glock). No grip safety (same as the Glock).
If you want to consider designs that are not derived from John Moses Browning, there are a number.
Consider the HK9, that uses a roller locked breech, or the Walther P38 and Berretta 94, or The Luger, or the HK P-7 with the gas retardation system.
Plus, it won’t rip your face off when you pull the trigger if you give it some space. :-)
“ran a test the late 1960s, “
Let us know when they run a test using modern 1911s. Also, let us know when they run the same test using a Glock.
Don’t quote tests that were not run using both guns from the same era at the same time. That’s about as scientific as guessing.
The dumbing down of America continues.
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