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How Americans get Shot by the Police
Japanese Rule of 7 ^ | 2OCT2016 | Ken Seeroi

Posted on 10/30/2016 6:06:17 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine

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To: Lakewood

“”” There’s a time for asking questions...that’s after “barking” orders. For most people you would be correct...but they don’t know they are dealing with “most people” until they have “barked there orders”. I wish it was as simple as you allude...”””””

An apt description of a police state. Dismayed to learn that so many FReepers ascribe to it.


21 posted on 10/30/2016 7:17:03 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: raybbr

No. It’s an apt description of your lack of understanding of what a police officer goes through.

A police state is where they can stop you for no reason and “bark orders”. Was that the case here? Or did they come upon a scene where someone may have been in danger an NO facts were known to them at the time?


22 posted on 10/30/2016 7:23:02 PM PDT by Lakewood
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To: Mears

He tries to be funny.


23 posted on 10/30/2016 7:23:38 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The cops are on edge because everybody’s got a gun. Everybody’s got a gun because everybody else’s got a gun.

Bullshit. They’re panty wetting feminized pussies. Men don’t act this way. Period.


24 posted on 10/30/2016 7:26:21 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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To: Edward.Fish

Well said.

IMO cops and police departments are out of control. Too many cops, too much focus on catching people on some technical infraction to deal out a fine, not enough focus on solving actual crimes. I don’t respect cops anymore, I just fear them and their shakedowns.


25 posted on 10/30/2016 7:27:44 PM PDT by JTHomes (Government is force.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

He is completely correct about what can result from people screaming contradictory commands.

ONE police officer should issue commands. ONE.

Screaming at people can rattle them, make them freeze up. Possibly that is a good thing, initially. When the one officer issuing commands wants the detainee to start taking action, a calmer tone might just work better.

Obscenities and raging threats (gonna blow your head off, gonna open up on you) are likely to escalate the situation for the officers themselves, and should be avoided. Idioms should not be used, for the benefit of those with limited English.


26 posted on 10/30/2016 7:30:06 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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To: Edward.Fish

Very sensibly put.

And I am glad your experience lines up with my laywoman’s analysis of how the police can end up shooting someone they really should not have.

Bad communication and escalation.

I’ve read a few accounts of unarmed English police officers talking down armed or dangerous people. They seem to have been trained in de-escalation in a way that many American police have not, or have forgotten.

(I have spent four hours in an ambulance waiting for the county SWAT to talk down a suicidal man with a knife - there are good, patient, well-trained, courteous police officers out there.)


27 posted on 10/30/2016 7:44:10 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
You caught us at a bad time and in a bad place. The LAPD has a longstanding reputation for shooting first and asking questions of the corpse. Maybe twenty five years ago I saw a comedian at the LA Comedy Club do a bit showing standard LAPD procedure in stopping someone for questioning. It went ... comedian puts up pretend gun (can someone even do that on stage anymore without being arrested?), makes loud bang noise and pretends heavy recoil, then says "Halt". It got big laughs because it rang so true. Even back then.

The bad thing about the timing is this current phenomenon called "Black Lives Matter". Most people would agree with that, and the obvious secondary comment "Just like everybody else's". The problem is the BLM "movement" hates that second point and wants open season on anyone in a blue uniform. The blue uniforms in turn know this and so what used to be caution on their part is now full blown (and fully justified) paranoia. Paranoids with badges and guns are a bad thing.

It is no coincidence that all this started during the presidency of someone who viscerally hates, in no particular order, white people, Jews, Christians, or anyone who doesn't think kissing his skinny behind a religious obligation. We're in deep $hit and you just happened to be here, inadvertently wading in with us.

28 posted on 10/30/2016 8:02:03 PM PDT by katana
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To: Jack Hydrazine
in those 10 years i guess he forgot how to understand english...
29 posted on 10/30/2016 8:12:50 PM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: BenLurkin

I dunno, I’ve seen a whole lot more “jacked up on something (steroids methinks)” police in the last few years than ever before.

So you don’t think that the police overreacted? Were unnecessarily overbearing?

Tell us honestly, when is the last time you had any interaction with a city police officer?

While I don’t support the anti-police brigade, I am VERY leery of our constabulary. I have had some...interesting events in my life due to a cowboy in blue getting offended because I actually DO know my rights.


30 posted on 10/30/2016 10:09:34 PM PDT by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Lakewood

Chickie and dude are sitting, talking in the car. Officer friendly comes up with 3 other cars full of trigger happy keystones and they all start yelling conflicting things at a couple of tourists, at least one of whom isn’t fully fluent in English OR Spanish.

Yeah, it’s all the writer’s fault.

THAT is EXACTLY what is wrong with the formerly FREE world. The police think they ARE the law, as opposed to ensuring the public follows it.

Police work doesn’t even make the Top Ten dangerous jobs, so get over yourself.


31 posted on 10/30/2016 10:17:30 PM PDT by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Chode

My how times have changed in the land of the rising sun-—when I was there (many times, years back)black sailors were only welcome in bars that catered to blacks. When I asked why, Mamasan told me, “they cheap, play loud music, always try to get free stuff and fight with everybody. I was never able to correct the myth.


32 posted on 10/31/2016 4:49:27 AM PDT by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Chick should have just yelled “HE GOT WEED!”.

Because sometimes the old ways are best.


33 posted on 10/31/2016 8:45:52 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: heartwood
He is completely correct about what can result from people screaming contradictory commands.

Everybody freeze. Everybody down on the ground.


Well, which is it, young feller? You want I should freeze or get down on the ground? Mean to say, if'n I freeze, I can't rightly drop. And if'n I drop, I'm a-gonna be in motion. You see...

34 posted on 10/31/2016 8:51:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BTCM

same=same as at home...


35 posted on 10/31/2016 2:43:33 PM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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