Posted on 10/27/2016 7:13:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I tucked this Moore audio into a post last night but it deserves its own thread. Listen to it below and tell me that Trump isnt right to want to show it off. Its not an endorsement, but the thrill Moore enjoys at the thought of the working class taking revenge on the system by electing Trump, however imperfect a vehicle he may be, is visceral. Trumps a nationalist, sort of, and Moores a socialist, but those philosophies find common ground in revanchism towards the elite. You can see here why Trump thought early on that he might be able to siphon off some Bernie Sanders voters from Clinton even though shes further left than he is. He didnt always represent the working class his base in the GOP primaries was actually better off financially than the average American but hes become the champion of whites without a college degree in the general. If he or his party had a turnout operation that could go out and find the 47 million members of that group who typically dont vote, we really would be on the verge of the biggest f*** you in political history.
Dont be misled by the clip, though, into believing that Moore is a closet Trumper. Id compare what youre about to hear to a preacher luxuriating in the promise that the terrors of hell will be visited upon the wicked in the afterlife. To Moore, the rich are the sinners and Trump is the devil; Moores not pro-devil but he is pro-punishment for those who have sinned. And I dont use that comparison lightly. Read this interview he gave recently to Rolling Stone and youll see that he really does view Trump as a malignant, literally sick figure. None of that comes through in the clip, but man, does it come through in RS:
I hope he goes down. I want a 50-state sweep. I want both houses of Congress back in Democratic control and I want all the nasty women and men to show up November 8th. Now you see what hes done by his behavior. Its no longer just Donald J. Trump on the ballot. Misogyny is on the ballot. Racism is on the ballot. White privilege and elitism are on the ballot. Its not just about defeating Trump. First of all, be for Hillary. But secondly, we need to defeat not just Trump, but whatever it is he springs from; the dying dinosaurs that exist in this country who miss the old way where the white man was going to run the show. Last month, we just got the second year in a row where the majority of kindergarteners in school in this country were not white. So welcome to the new America
But its not that he came in and destroyed the Republican party. Hes the natural extension of everything that they have believed in for the last 30 years. And its like the gene pool has got more and more depleted and you end up in a science fiction show like the one were in with this creature. Its like somebody went to Dr. Frankenstein last year and said, I need a candidate who is the embodiment of every awful male trait, every awful white man trait and every awful rich guy trait and roll that all into one candidate.
[H]es not well. I would not want to pick on him anymore. We need to stop him. You cant have a sociopath in the White House and some will disagree with me and say, No, Mike, youre wrong. He is a psychopath. Im not educated enough to know the difference. But hes not a well person and he needs help. And once you realize that he has a mental illness, at that point, if youre a human being with a soul and a conscience, you want him to get help.
At one point he describes Trump voters, insofar as they want to blow up the system, as legal terrorists, which makes the Trump/Moore alliance awkward, shall we say. But even if things dont pan out for Trump next month, you can see some potential here for a more politically deft populist figure to build on what Trumps already built in the years to come. The populist left is as receptive to anti-establishment rhetoric as the populist right; a candidate who could exploit that common ground while downplaying the cultural differences between them would have an intriguing national base. But that assumes that Trumps base really is motivated mostly by economic grievances, not by cultural grievances. Was Trump a phenomenon because he bucked Republican conventional wisdom on protectionism? Or was Trump a phenomenon because he bucked liberal political correctness? I think the latter was a stronger factor than the former probably much more so. If Im right, nationalists and Berniebros are going to have a hard time getting water and oil to mix.
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Just when one thought Megyn Kelly couldn’t get any lower.......her guest this evening was none other than Michael Moore. She had him on to “explain and clarify” his video. That he did, he excoriated Trump and let it be known he despises Trump and his video rant was obviously only for people who were smart enough to understand.
Yeah... Trump should be VERY careful with that endorsement.
If he’s smart (and we know he is), he won’t find it necessary to say anything except a quiet “Thank you” to Michael Moore.
Human Malatov Cocktail.
“Just when one thought Megyn Kelly couldnt get any lower.......her guest this evening was none other than Michael Moore. She had him on to explain and clarify his video. That he did, he excoriated Trump and let it be known he despises Trump and his video rant was obviously only for people who were smart enough to understand.”
Despicable Me-gyn
This AllahPundit guy is a very poor writer. His stream of consciousness style is boring and disjointed. His stupid moniker is the top reason I won’t read his rants. If I don’t even know who it is I’m reading, why bother trying to discern his point?
Might bring in some bernie voters. Won’t send anyone away.
I think (El Gordito) Moore is panicked that his short preview video is being looked at as something verging on (Gasp!!) an endorsement for The Donald. His actual intent was to ooze sarcasm and coy satire. Sometimes we can become so arrogant and think we are so clever that we outsmart ourselves.
Yeah, I listened to the whole thing. The “endorsement” was very effective, intended to make Moore’s audience squirm until he slowly built up to a resounding lauding if Hillary. What was interesting: the Trump “endorsement” was very convincing, while the Hillary lauding was emotional but empty. Moore’s audience was devout leftists, so the performance swayed nobody.
Allapundit is trying to imitate the stream of (un)consciousness writing style of Hunter Thompson. Thompson was a wild eyed, wacko, linked to Gonzo Journalism.
Johnny Depp played him in a movie. What does that tell you?
We all know how Depp likes the indulgence of playing the Antagonist.
That’s not an endorsement. Moore just stated why Americans were voting for Trump and why he’d win. He went on to speculate he felt the voters would regret it. But he gets it.
#ICYMI: I agree- To all Americans, I see you & I hear you. I am your voice. Vote to #DrainTheSwamp with me on 11/8. https://t.co/XW8hBRHQ3j pic.twitter.com/hypGfcOYTY— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 27, 2016
I agree, @MMFlint- To all Americans, I see you & I hear you. I am your voice. Vote to #DrainTheSwamp w/ me on 11/8. https://t.co/D7nBwkogBb— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 27, 2016
Some commenting here seem to have no clue.
I don’t read Analpundit or all of Hot Air, for that matter, anymore. I used to live there.
Their site went in the crapper once they switched over to Facebook commenting. They used to have a robust community, and now their posts have about 5 comments with 3 of them from trolls. I think Analpundit has been particularly bitter about it and has seemed to only get more shrill as the campaign wore on.
AllahPundit picks news items which are anti-Trump and then writes his article. Every article he has written for 16 months is anti-Trump. Of course he tries to camouflage as neutral observer but fails badly. I no longer click on his articles.
Well said in much fewer words than I.
“Analpundit”.. You made me laugh tonight! I also miss the comments. They were half the reason I went there. Now, it’s like a one way window, where you can see in, but no one will be looking back out at you.
I don’t wish to go on Facebook just for that reason, so I do without the comments.
Hot Air, just like Twitchy has become ardently #NeverTrump, and it’s almost like going to Mediate now, where you know you only get the Lib point of view with gratuitous demeaning of conservatives.
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