Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Trump touts Michael Moore audio: His election will be the biggest “**** you” in human history
Hot Air ^ | October 27, 2016 | Allahpundit

Posted on 10/27/2016 7:13:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I tucked this Moore audio into a post last night but it deserves its own thread. Listen to it below and tell me that Trump isn’t right to want to show it off. It’s not an endorsement, but the thrill Moore enjoys at the thought of the working class taking revenge on “the system” by electing Trump, however imperfect a vehicle he may be, is visceral. Trump’s a nationalist, sort of, and Moore’s a socialist, but those philosophies find common ground in revanchism towards the elite. You can see here why Trump thought early on that he might be able to siphon off some Bernie Sanders voters from Clinton even though she’s further left than he is. He didn’t always represent the working class — his base in the GOP primaries was actually better off financially than the average American — but he’s become the champion of whites without a college degree in the general. If he or his party had a turnout operation that could go out and find the 47 million members of that group who typically don’t vote, we really would be on the verge of the biggest “f*** you” in political history.

Don’t be misled by the clip, though, into believing that Moore is a closet Trumper. I’d compare what you’re about to hear to a preacher luxuriating in the promise that the terrors of hell will be visited upon the wicked in the afterlife. To Moore, the rich are the sinners and Trump is the devil; Moore’s not pro-devil but he is pro-punishment for those who have sinned. And I don’t use that comparison lightly. Read this interview he gave recently to Rolling Stone and you’ll see that he really does view Trump as a malignant, literally sick figure. None of that comes through in the clip, but man, does it come through in RS:

I hope he goes down. I want a 50-state sweep. I want both houses of Congress back in Democratic control and I want all the “nasty” women and men to show up November 8th. Now you see what he’s done by his behavior. It’s no longer just Donald J. Trump on the ballot. Misogyny is on the ballot. Racism is on the ballot. White privilege and elitism are on the ballot. It’s not just about defeating Trump. First of all, be for Hillary. But secondly, we need to defeat not just Trump, but whatever it is he springs from; the dying dinosaurs that exist in this country who miss the old way where the white man was going to run the show. Last month, we just got the second year in a row where the majority of kindergarteners in school in this country were not white. So welcome to the new America…

But it’s not that he came in and destroyed the Republican party. He’s the natural extension of everything that they have believed in for the last 30 years. And it’s like the gene pool has got more and more depleted and you end up in a science fiction show like the one we’re in with this creature. It’s like somebody went to Dr. Frankenstein last year and said, “I need a candidate who is the embodiment of every awful male trait, every awful white man trait and every awful rich guy trait and roll that all into one candidate.”…

[H]e’s not well. I would not want to pick on him anymore. We need to stop him. You can’t have a sociopath in the White House and some will disagree with me and say, “No, Mike, you’re wrong. He is a psychopath.” I’m not educated enough to know the difference. But he’s not a well person and he needs help. And once you realize that he has a mental illness, at that point, if you’re a human being with a soul and a conscience, you want him to get help.

At one point he describes Trump voters, insofar as they want to blow up the system, as “legal terrorists,” which makes the Trump/Moore alliance … awkward, shall we say. But even if things don’t pan out for Trump next month, you can see some potential here for a more politically deft populist figure to build on what Trump’s already built in the years to come. The populist left is as receptive to anti-establishment rhetoric as the populist right; a candidate who could exploit that common ground while downplaying the cultural differences between them would have an intriguing national base. But that assumes that Trump’s base really is motivated mostly by economic grievances, not by cultural grievances. Was Trump a phenomenon because he bucked Republican conventional wisdom on protectionism? Or was Trump a phenomenon because he bucked liberal political correctness? I think the latter was a stronger factor than the former — probably much more so. If I’m right, nationalists and Berniebros are going to have a hard time getting water and oil to mix.

(VIDEO-AND TWEET-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: michaelmoore; moreoldnews; trump
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last

1 posted on 10/27/2016 7:13:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just when one thought Megyn Kelly couldn’t get any lower.......her guest this evening was none other than Michael Moore. She had him on to “explain and clarify” his video. That he did, he excoriated Trump and let it be known he despises Trump and his video rant was obviously only for people who were smart enough to understand.


2 posted on 10/27/2016 7:20:12 PM PDT by Toespi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah... Trump should be VERY careful with that endorsement.

If he’s smart (and we know he is), he won’t find it necessary to say anything except a quiet “Thank you” to Michael Moore.


3 posted on 10/27/2016 7:21:41 PM PDT by Safrguns
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Human Malatov Cocktail.


4 posted on 10/27/2016 7:23:58 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Toespi

“Just when one thought Megyn Kelly couldn’t get any lower.......her guest this evening was none other than Michael Moore. She had him on to “explain and clarify” his video. That he did, he excoriated Trump and let it be known he despises Trump and his video rant was obviously only for people who were smart enough to understand.”

Despicable Me-gyn


5 posted on 10/27/2016 7:28:23 PM PDT by MyDogAteMyBallot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Michael Moore Stars In His Latest Film

A Biographic Epic
Click The Pic

6 posted on 10/27/2016 7:28:37 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

This AllahPundit guy is a very poor writer. His stream of consciousness style is boring and disjointed. His stupid moniker is the top reason I won’t read his rants. If I don’t even know who it is I’m reading, why bother trying to discern his point?


7 posted on 10/27/2016 7:29:18 PM PDT by Bulldaddy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Might bring in some bernie voters. Won’t send anyone away.


8 posted on 10/27/2016 7:31:15 PM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Toespi

I think (El Gordito) Moore is panicked that his short preview video is being looked at as something verging on (Gasp!!) an endorsement for The Donald. His actual intent was to ooze sarcasm and coy satire. Sometimes we can become so arrogant and think we are so clever that we outsmart ourselves.


9 posted on 10/27/2016 7:31:56 PM PDT by lee martell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, I listened to the whole thing. The “endorsement” was very effective, intended to make Moore’s audience squirm until he slowly built up to a resounding lauding if Hillary. What was interesting: the Trump “endorsement” was very convincing, while the Hillary lauding was emotional but empty. Moore’s audience was devout leftists, so the performance swayed nobody.


10 posted on 10/27/2016 7:32:51 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bulldaddy

Allapundit is trying to imitate the stream of (un)consciousness writing style of Hunter Thompson. Thompson was a wild eyed, wacko, linked to Gonzo Journalism.
Johnny Depp played him in a movie. What does that tell you?
We all know how Depp likes the indulgence of playing the Antagonist.


11 posted on 10/27/2016 7:37:26 PM PDT by lee martell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Safrguns

That’s not an endorsement. Moore just stated why Americans were voting for Trump and why he’d win. He went on to speculate he felt the voters would regret it. But he gets it.


12 posted on 10/27/2016 7:38:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Safrguns
Trump trolled Moore twice on twitter, EPIC. Trump instantly reaches 12.7 million people, probably way more than will watch Moore's movie.

#ICYMI: I agree- To all Americans, I see you & I hear you. I am your voice. Vote to #DrainTheSwamp with me on 11/8. https://t.co/XW8hBRHQ3j pic.twitter.com/hypGfcOYTY— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 27, 2016


13 posted on 10/27/2016 7:40:17 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: lee martell; Bulldaddy
Bill Murray played him years earlier in Where the Buffalo Roam.
14 posted on 10/27/2016 7:41:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Safrguns

I agree, @MMFlint- To all Americans, I see you & I hear you. I am your voice. Vote to #DrainTheSwamp w/ me on 11/8. https://t.co/D7nBwkogBb— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 27, 2016

15 posted on 10/27/2016 7:42:35 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Safrguns
That's not an endorsement. Moore just stated why Americans were voting for Trump and why he'd win. He went on to speculate he felt the voters would regret it. But he gets it.

Some commenting here seem to have no clue.

16 posted on 10/27/2016 7:44:58 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: lee martell

I don’t read Analpundit or all of Hot Air, for that matter, anymore. I used to live there.

Their site went in the crapper once they switched over to Facebook commenting. They used to have a robust community, and now their posts have about 5 comments with 3 of them from trolls. I think Analpundit has been particularly bitter about it and has seemed to only get more shrill as the campaign wore on.


17 posted on 10/27/2016 8:05:04 PM PDT by MountainWalker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Bulldaddy

AllahPundit picks news items which are anti-Trump and then writes his article. Every article he has written for 16 months is anti-Trump. Of course he tries to camouflage as neutral observer but fails badly. I no longer click on his articles.


18 posted on 10/27/2016 8:10:44 PM PDT by entropy12 (TRUMP/PENCE 2016!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: entropy12

Well said in much fewer words than I.


19 posted on 10/27/2016 8:16:52 PM PDT by Bulldaddy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: MountainWalker

“Analpundit”.. You made me laugh tonight! I also miss the comments. They were half the reason I went there. Now, it’s like a one way window, where you can see in, but no one will be looking back out at you.

I don’t wish to go on Facebook just for that reason, so I do without the comments.
Hot Air, just like Twitchy has become ardently #NeverTrump, and it’s almost like going to Mediate now, where you know you only get the Lib point of view with gratuitous demeaning of conservatives.


20 posted on 10/27/2016 8:26:41 PM PDT by lee martell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson