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When asked who they'd choose for president, the largest share of pastors had a surprising response
The Oklahoman ^ | October 12, 2016 | Billy Hallowell, Deseret News

Posted on 10/12/2016 3:42:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: YogicCowboy

I too am an ordained minister who left the church of my fathers. It is drowning in pussified pastors.


21 posted on 10/12/2016 4:55:14 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Stop the Left and save the world.)
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To: madison10

Seminaries were long ago subverted by communists just like universities.

Add in Caesar’s 30 Pieces of 501(3)c bribery, and you have your answer.


22 posted on 10/12/2016 4:57:46 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: Louis Foxwell

I deeply empathize.


23 posted on 10/12/2016 5:00:38 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“undecided”-that’s a great way to change the subject.


24 posted on 10/12/2016 5:10:52 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: WashingtonFire

I’d say that’s a pretty accurate summary of the situation.


25 posted on 10/12/2016 5:17:17 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am not sure I find that surprising. Guess they just needed a provocative title.


26 posted on 10/12/2016 5:36:36 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The 25% who plan to vote for Clinton should be immediately fired by their congregations. A rabid anti-Christian and strongly pro-abortion person should never even be in consideration.

I’m far from a single issue voter, but pro-life is a hill to die on.


27 posted on 10/12/2016 5:43:56 PM PDT by cyclotic
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To: YogicCowboy

Its a tragedy that churches have allowed this to happen. But, it comes strictly form disobeying scripture.

My church follows the Bible. Women do not preach, nor take positions of authority over men. God had it right. When men give up their authority, some strident women take over and emasculate the men.

As a result, our church is strong, with men and women. We all have our part to play. Men have men’s ministries and are responsible for the teaching, women take on their roles, which are also supremely important in the body of Christ.


28 posted on 10/12/2016 5:50:00 PM PDT by cyclotic
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To: wattojawa
As an evangelical Protestant, we don't "excommunicate" members nor pastors. The decision is a matter of personal faith and conscience; in other words, a matter between a believer and God's teachings.

The pastors in our specific church made a public statement to the Obama Administration, that we had no problem losing our tax-exemp status rather than not teaching and preaching the scriptures, especially regarding homosexual unions or "celebrations" of sexual immorality. We will not "bless" nor in any way, acknowledge, homosexual unions. We will counsel homosexuals who wish to step away from that destructive lifestyle.

Our denomination refuses to pretend that God's plan for marriage and the family, is any other than one man and one woman, who are unrelated to one another; that children belong in intact families with their mothers and fathers, if at all possible. We do recognize that the breakdown or breakup of marriage happens, even after premarital counseling, marriage therapy and intervention. If or when that happens, our church continues to support the family. God loves families and so do we.

Fortunately, God is a God of second chances and third and fourth and more.

29 posted on 10/12/2016 5:59:20 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: AndyTheBear

Bam! Great post.


30 posted on 10/12/2016 6:05:03 PM PDT by roostercogburn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is God calling you to be a Pastor? We need Pastors who haven’t been brainwashed in modern seminaries. We need Pastors with discernment, not just the ability to get along with the people in his church that finance his job. We need men who will stand up for truth no matter what the consequence. Are you that person? If so then please start an anointed Church. “Where two or more are gathered in my name, there I am in the midst of them.” This is what Jesus said. All it takes are Him, The Holy Spirit and just two or more of us.


31 posted on 10/13/2016 3:58:10 PM PDT by Bellflower (Dems = Mat 6:23 ....If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!)
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