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To: Sean_Anthony
"'ultimate conservative candidate'", says Kristol?

Give us a break!!

Of Trump, Newt Gingrich may have made the most insightful observation so far, as reported on the Fox Radio web site:

"“I don’t think of Trump as a traditional conservative but I think what Trump is, is an anti-left, anti-political correctness, anti-stupidity American nationalist. I think he may do more to break up the left than any conservative in our lifetime except maybe Reagan.” - -Newt Gingrich on if Trump is a conservative
Further, prior to the 2012 election fiasco, one of my FreeRepublic posts concerning the Romney campaign contained this prediction:
"Romney will lose to Obama, because he fits right into the narrative of the so-called "progressives" and becomes their perfect opponent.

If these "GOP establishment" types, using the Left's tactics, force a Romney candidacy, then they must be held accountable for the consequences, including the loss of liberty for their posterity.

The Fall (2012)campaign will be a battle of ideas. Romney is no ideas warrior.

Obama understands the foundations of his ideology, and he understands how to frame those ideas in a manner that is misleading and appealing to those whom he wishes to enslave to government.

Romney shows no capacity for understanding nor articulating the ideas essential to liberty, and the way he frames what he does understand does not excite passion.

Oh, how we need a Jefferson or an Adams!

Sadly, that prediction proved to be true.

Even sadder, however, is the fact that now, in the Year 2016, the very man who failed to inspire America's citizens to reject false ideas of progressive oppression and political correctness of the Administration, along with his running mate who, likewise, did not use his elected office effectively to halt or stop the Obama programs which have now degraded our freedom--those two men now reject the consequence ("the People's" choice of Trump) they and the rest of the GOP-E brought about by their failure to act courageously to act on their voters' mandate .

Gingrich, in his comments (above), may be on to something. Perhaps "the People's" visceral reaction to the loss of freedom and national standing their elected GOP representatives and Senators allowed to happen has become so strong that, without focusing on the philosophical ideas underlying that freedom, they chose a potential nominee who will shake up the status quo and force their representatives to bend their will to that of their bosses, "the People," just as the Founders and Framers of the Constitution intended.

Many individuals have claimed the banner, "conservative", since Reagan.

Problem: Ronald Reagan had studied and "marinated" himself (thanks for the term, Laura Ingraham) in the Founders' ideas of liberty and the seedbed of ideas which preceded them: many recent "conservatives" have not, and have, therefore, sullied the name "conservative" because they have not exhibited that "visceral" reaction to a President and Party who describe themselves as "progressive and "servants" when they are, in fact, regressive and masters.

16 posted on 05/09/2016 9:49:28 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2; Sean_Anthony
“I don’t think of Trump as a traditional conservative but I think what Trump is, is an anti-left, anti-political correctness, anti-stupidity American nationalist. I think he may do more to break up the left than any conservative in our lifetime except maybe Reagan.” - -Newt Gingrich on if Trump is a conservative

Newt has nailed it; it is why I supported Cruz in the primary because I wanted someone I knew would be conservative, but it is also why I support Trump now in the general, because the destruction of the left is Job One, by any political and legal means necessary.

39 posted on 05/09/2016 10:04:59 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: loveliberty2
One clarification: The "seedbed of ideas" that proceeded the Founding Fathers, was never based on ideological theories--which your quotation might be misconstrued to refer to. The Founders' under-standing of the proper--indeed both altruistic & pragmatic--role of Government, was based upon the actual experiences of their forebears, who had literally build functionally successful political societies from the ground up. (The Declaration of Independence clearly reflects this experience based understanding>)

See Grounded On Experience & Reason.

Jefferson could paraphrase Locke, knowing from the immediate past history of Virginia that Locke was functionally confirmed by those actual experiences.

65 posted on 05/09/2016 11:10:14 AM PDT by Ohioan
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