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Man who set himself on fire at Northfield veterans' clinic has died
The Press of Atlantic City ^ | March 23, 2016 | Michelle Brunetti

Posted on 03/25/2016 7:35:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

An Egg Harbor Township veteran who died after setting himself on fire Saturday outside a U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs clinic in Northfield has drawn attention to problems in the VA system.

Charles R. Ingram III, 51, was airlifted to the Temple Burn Center in Philadelphia on Saturday, where he died later that night, Northfield police said.

No note of explanation was left at the scene or at Ingram's home, said Northfield acting Police Chief Paul Newman.

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Ingram's family members have declined to speak to The Press.

But the public nature and location of the suicide is causing veterans' advocates to redouble efforts to improve access to medical and mental health care.

"We have been asking the VA in Wilmington for years for Saturday appointments and late Wednesday night appointments, and were told it was going to be taken care of," said Atlantic County Veterans Affairs Director Bob Frolow, who works at the county Vet Center in Ventnor. "As of today, it is still not."

The Northfield clinic is part of the Wilmington VA Medical Center system.

"At the very least, his actions were an expression of need," said Frolow, adding that people can't get in to talk to doctors or nurses when their problems need to be addressed. "It's a shame and sign of desperation and need. This might open a window on that need."

The clinic was closed at the time of the incident. Its daytime Monday-to-Friday schedule causes a hardship for many who cannot get there during work hours, he said.

Frolow said Ingram was not a client of his in Ventnor, but he believed Ingram had an association with the Northfield clinic.

Veterans were being seen at the clinic Tuesday afternoon, where a memorial has been set up at the site of the fire.

"I've never seen anyone do this," said Lou Hodac, a 68-year-old Vietnam veteran. "I've seen guys turn to alcohol and drugs."

He said he likes the clinic but wishes it would provide more services. If he wakes up with a fever, he has to see his private doctor or go to an urgent-care clinic, he said.

The Wilmington VA Medical Center issued a statement saying it was "saddened to learn about the tragic incident that took place outside of the Atlantic County Community Based Outpatient Clinic. ... Our thoughts and prayers are with the victim's family, friends and neighbors."

It said the medical center was cooperating with an investigation by Northfield police.

"Due to the open investigation and patient privacy concerns, we will not be commenting further at this time," the statement said.

Veterans' advocate Marco Polo Smigliani, of Egg Harbor Township, has been working with others to help vets for about 14 years, he said.

"More than ever, we are determined -- no, emboldened -- to carry on our quest to provide every veteran with the health care they need, when they need it and where they need it," said Smigliani. "Hearts are deeply saddened today, and our mission continues so that one among us will not have died in vain."

U.S. Rep. Frank LoBiondo, R-2nd, has been trying to get the VA to allow a pilot program in Atlantic County for veterans to get care from community-based providers with the VA paying the bills, rather than traveling to the Wilmington hospital.

"First and foremost, it would be best for health care and it would prove cost effective for the VA," said LoBiondo. But he said he met recently with the secretary of the VA, who told him it will never happen, without giving a reason.

There have been some successes, he said, such as the opening of the Northfield clinic and allowing veterans to get kidney dialysis closer to home rather than traveling to Wilmington or Philadelphia.

"But nowhere near the degree to which veterans deserve," he said.

Veterans who have physical or psychological hardships that prevent them from traveling to Wilmington can apply for a waiver program that allows them to get care from providers at home. But LoBiondo said only a small number of veterans has applied and gotten the waiver.

"I'm told many veterans -- especially older ones -- are very proud. They don't want to ask for a waiver and have to say they have a hardship," said LoBiondo. "But if they don't say they have a problem, I can't make it happen."

He and his Mays Landing office staff member Michael R. Francis, who works as a liaison to veterans, are trying to get more vets to apply for the waiver, he said.

Ingram used gasoline as an accelerant and set himself on fire at the clinic at 1901 New Road. He was evacuated by helicopter from the Northfield Community School to Temple University Hospital in Philadelphia just before 2 p.m., police said.

There have been other suicides at VA clinics.

In July 2014, Navy veteran Kevin Keller, 52, shot himself in front of a closed VA clinic in Wytheville, Virgnia. He left a note blaming the VA for leaving him in terrible pain after weaning him off prescription painkillers, according to a Sept. 7, 2014, story in the Roanoke Times.

Earlier this month, the VA announced it was taking new steps to prevent veteran suicide.

"We know that every day, approximately 22 veterans take their lives, and that is too many," said VA Undersecretary for Health David Shulkin. "While no one knows the subject of veteran suicide better than VA, we also realize that caring for our veterans is a shared responsibility. We all have an obligation to help veterans suffering from the invisible wounds of military service that lead them to think suicide is their only option."

The VA said it would elevate its Suicide Prevention Program with additional resources, provide veterans with same-day evaluations and access by the end of 2016, use predictive modeling to guide early interventions for suicide prevention, enhance mental health access by establishing three regional tele-mental health hubs and more.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Local News; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: veterans

1 posted on 03/25/2016 7:35:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>He left a note blaming the VA for leaving him in terrible pain after weaning him off prescription painkillers

If you don’t want to live, you won’t.


2 posted on 03/25/2016 7:39:03 PM PDT by soycd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

22 a day. Almost too horrifying to think about.

Does anyone know if it has been reported how much worse this is than in the general population?

These guys need help yesterday!!!

they are hurting mentally and physically.

Especially those with TBIs worry me.


3 posted on 03/25/2016 7:40:30 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How terrible sad. Even after all the VA scandals that were to be fixed, our Country is still ignoring our vets. Shame on us!


4 posted on 03/25/2016 7:42:20 PM PDT by mouse1 (Je Suis Trump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And the polidiots who pander to pennies will just spend money on corruption committees versus those in need ....... nothing changes.


5 posted on 03/25/2016 7:49:57 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This made NO national news. NOTHING on Drudge. I don’t know about Fux. It’s not on their HORRIBLE website. Yet if a “crack lies matta!” piece of chains him/her/itself to a pole...ho-lee CRAP, lookout!


6 posted on 03/25/2016 7:53:01 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (Immigration without assimilation is the death of a nation -- FUJB!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
okay the VA is horrible...but its free and there are many people who pay thousands of dollars yearly JUST for insurance, and then there's deductibles on top of that...

military were told they would get "free" health care for life?...okay, but "free" always always has strings attached..

you don't get to see anybody you want...you need to wait for elective surgeries...and the critically hurt guys from war zones have priority...

there are free clinics everywhere....if one is sick go there....or any ER dept...they have to see you and they will admit you if you need it....

7 posted on 03/25/2016 7:54:32 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

Actually, as I understand it, the priority system is based on percentage of service-connected disability and also POW status for the most part. Now that I am over 100% things go a little more smoothly.


8 posted on 03/25/2016 7:59:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And all the make-believe pig farmers received $50,000 each.

I am convinced that the word came down from the President to stonewall or slow-walk all matters dealing with Veterans.

Veterans are viewed as the enemy by Democrats.

He hit the VA to get money for Democrat voters.


9 posted on 03/25/2016 8:02:47 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

RIP.


10 posted on 03/25/2016 9:54:20 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He left a note blaming the VA for leaving him in terrible pain after weaning him off prescription painkillers, according to a Sept. 7, 2014, story in the Roanoke Times.

That sounds worthy of a malpractice investigation.

R.I.P.

11 posted on 03/25/2016 11:37:57 PM PDT by TChad
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To: dp0622

“they are hurting mentally and physically.
Especially those with TBIs worry me.”

Ironic that they mention another Navy veteran who took his life. The veteran who set himself on fire was also in the Navy.


12 posted on 03/26/2016 7:40:30 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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