Posted on 03/16/2016 3:32:45 PM PDT by drewh
The Department of Justice s Operation Fast and Furious: Accounts of ATF AgentsAgent Casa recounted a similar situation. He had also never heard of, nor seen, guns being allowed to walk until he got to Phoenix:
. . . . But from the time I started as an ATF special agent . . . up until the time I got to Phoenix, that was my understanding, that we do not let guns walk, absolutely, positively not. And if we if ever a case [where]we would do that, there better be a really good explanation why we did not grab that gun when we could.
Q. But that changed when you came to Phoenix, I mean the practice at least changed, correct?
A. Yes.
(snip)
As Agent Dodson testified:
Q. Based on our training and experience, what did you think about [walking guns]?
A. It was something I had never done before, sir. And quite frankly, I took great issue with it and concern.I felt like I understand the importance of going after the bigger target, but there is a way to do that. We did it successfully in the dope world all the time. And those skills and practices that we used there, a lot of them transfer over, and more than applicable in gun trafficking investigations, but we werent allowed to use any of them.
Q. And did you ever have a recollection of sharing your frustration with Special Agent Casa?
A. Oh, yes, sir.
Q. And any other special agents that you can
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And maybe you could just tell us what other agents you
A. Pretty much everyone, sir. It was, I shared my reservations and concerns with Special Agent [L], with Dave Voth, with Special Agent [D]Special Agent [H], Special Agent Alt, Special Agent [P], several of the special agents that came on the GRIT, G-R-I-T. The gunrunner initiative is what it stands for. I shared them with or I voiced my concerns to other agents inside the Phoenix field division that was on other groups.
(snip)
Despite this e-mail, agents continued to experience dismay and frustration as Operation Fast and Furious continued along its perilous path. As Agent Casa testified:
Q. And is it fair to say that. . .the folks on your side of the schism wanted to do everything they could to interdict these weapons so they wouldnt get any farther down the street than they have to?
A. Yes, sir. We were all sick to death when we realized that when we realized what was going on or when we saw what was going on by the trends. We were all just, yes, we were all distraught.
The rift widened when the Assistant Special Agent in Charge (ASAC) authoritatively and unambiguously told Group VII that guns were not being walked, that the special agents were incorrect in their terminology, and that there would be no more discussion or dissension about this topic. Agent Dodson testified:
A. Then we get an e-mail that . . . there is going to be a meeting. [the ASAC] is coming down, [the ASAC] comes into the Group 7 office and tells us essentially we better stand down with our complaints, that we didnt know what the definition of walking guns was, we werent familiar with the Phoenix way of doing things, that all of this was sanctioned and we just needed to essentially shut up and get in line. Thats not a quote, but thats the feel of the meeting, so . . .
ATF field agents were ordered to let the straw-buyers cross the border and leave their surveillance, against their own strenuous objections, or "find another job."
Here is testimony, under oath, to all of the above by four ATF field agents.
The Department of Justice s Operation Fast and Furious: Accounts of ATF Agents
Guns are not out of control. The Federal government is out of control.
I’ve said it again and again. The shredding has been and will go warp speed if it looks like Trump wins.
It will be amazing at all the documents that are UNAVAILABLE.
For better or worse that’s a lot harder to do in this cyber age.
I think that would create CW2, remember the Mexican gov does not turn over criminals to us if the death penalty pertains.
U R right almost anything sent via the internet is traceable, therefore if proof came forward and these murders lead as high up to Obama and Holder.
Oh boy, this would definitely be covered up whether a left or right President
December 8, 2011
Dear Representative Gardner:
Dear Senator Udall:
Dear Senator Bennet:Let's call Fast and Furious what it is. State-sponsored terrorism.
On this side of the border it's violations of the RICO Act. In Mexico and Honduras it's state-sponsored terrorism.
What else would you call heavily arming international criminal syndicates within a foreign country wherein that country is in a death struggle with those syndicates?
Especially when it goes beyond thousands of assault rifles to include grenades, RPGs, shoulder fired rockets, anti-aircraft guns, night vision equipment, body armor and special deals to bring their drugs onto our soil with legal impunity?
Not to mention that the rip crew that killed BP Agent Brian Terry was there with DEA and FBI assistance and approval to attack and kill a rival cartel's smuggling crew.
Let's not leave out the DEA laundering millions of dollars for the drug cartels by setting up bank accounts for them that they otherwise couldn't do.
It's organized, it is spread through every Federal LEA and it violates numerous domestic laws and numerous statutes and treaties that deal with foreign nations. Yet none of it has been officially sanctioned. It's the FedGov acting like mafiosa.
DHS Complicit In Drug Cartel Human Trafficking
CONFIRMED: The DEA Struck A Deal With Mexico's Most Notorious Drug Cartel
businessinsider Jan. 13, 2014
Pres. Obama, AG Eric Holder and Sec. State Hillary Clinton are all deeply involved in this and it is unquestionably state-sponsored terrorism by the definition used to define states like Iran and North Korea.
PS: if you think I am wrong or exaggerating any of this I will be glad to bring you up to speed with very well sourced articles, legal depositions (publically available) and other public information that verifies every word I have said.
Either you are with these criminals or you are with U.S. I implore you to get informed, get involved and act or get run over by this. This lawless scandal is not going away.
Sincerely,
Mr. (TigersEye)
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Many scandles that have gone unprosecuted, thanks to the GOP their partners in all of this
Good afternoon.
“What else would you call heavily arming international criminal syndicates within a foreign country wherein that country is in a death struggle with those syndicates?”
According to the Geneva Conventions, an act of war.
5.56mm
Yes, sir, it is. But luckily for the thugs that run the U.S. FedMob no country, particularly ones like Mexico and Honduras, can afford to confront these acts of war against them.
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