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What Is The Universe Expanding Into?
Forbes ^ | 2/19/16 | Ethan Siegel

Posted on 02/21/2016 2:52:24 PM PST by Duke C.

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To: Redcitizen

Amen & absolutely!


101 posted on 02/22/2016 4:57:13 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Save your wives, Save your daughters! Stop MUSLIM IMMIGRATION NOW!)
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To: TexasTransplant

Statistical probability is something that is much easier to understand and it is at least a mostly logical conclusion we can draw based on what we can see.


102 posted on 02/22/2016 6:52:22 AM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: BroJoeK
Heaven. The end of the Natural Realm, the border lands, the place where science ends and our religion continues.

What does that even mean? Think about what you just wrote. "The end of the natural realm...." So is there a wall? A moat? Is it really really hard, the "end" of the realm I mean ?

Or the beginning of the "border lands", huh. Real land or dirt or what? I'm just wondering what "religion continuing" is? Continuing to what?

103 posted on 02/22/2016 11:58:40 AM PST by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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To: Duke C.

OK, who’s the smarta** who divided by zero!!!


104 posted on 02/22/2016 2:35:59 PM PST by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123, Bahbah, and Just Lori.)
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To: Dick Vomer; Duke C.; Pikachu_Dad; linear
Dick Vomer: "Real land or dirt or what?
I'm just wondering what 'religion continuing' is? Continuing to what?"

linear: "It's turtles all the way down."

Continuing to Heaven, of course.

You might remember that our word "science" is short for the classical term "natural science", which derived from the ancients' "natural philosophy", meaning: finding natural explanations for natural processes.

Science can only exist where evidence of natural processes can be seen or inferred.
But where the natural realm ends, there also ends science, and begins something else -- beyond physics is metaphysics, beyond the natural is the supernatural, beyond science is philosophy or religion.

So, our FRiends linear & Pikachu_Dad assert (in jest, presumably) that's where turtles begin, but turtles provide only meager meals for our spirits.
Far better to visualize the End of the Natural Realm as the beginning of Supernatural Heaven, the place from which the Universe was Created and into which, presumably, it will eventually evaporate.

Of course, some atheists assert there is no "end of the natural realm", just the natural order continuing to infinity.
And it's your choice which to believe -- which do you think sounds more likely?

105 posted on 02/23/2016 6:11:03 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Rockingham

Actually, dark energy is what causes acceleration of expansion. It’s called dark because we don’t know what it is. Dark matter is just another way of saying the mass of the universe seems too large, given what we can observe. It really might be “dark”, at least to human eyes.


106 posted on 02/23/2016 3:16:00 PM PST by linear (Fealty to no man or party.)
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To: Rockingham

Actually, dark energy is what causes acceleration of expansion. It’s called dark because we don’t know what it is. Dark matter is just another way of saying the mass of the universe seems too large, given what we can observe. It really might be “dark”, at least to human eyes.


107 posted on 02/23/2016 3:16:21 PM PST by linear (Fealty to no man or party.)
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To: linear
You suggest -- without quite saying so -- that dark matter is all ordinary baryonic matter that we are not at present capable of directly and fully observing, such as gas, dust, debris, comets, asteroids, planets, minimal and burned out suns, and proto-galaxies.

Although the vastness of space provides a lot of places for such forms of dark matter to reside in, the subatomic realm seems to offer far more possibilities in that the incompleteness of our system of quantum mechanics is more profound. The leading theories virtually all project new particles and extra dimensions that add to the Universe's sum of mass and gravity.

Anyway, as my comments suggest, in the contest between cosmology and particle physics to claim dark matter, my money is on particle physics.

108 posted on 02/23/2016 6:10:00 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: BroJoeK

Please do not snap.

Turtles are not to be frivolous about. You might find yourself hoist on a fence post. And then you would be in the soup.

We all know that your hair is gone. Turtles will win the race.


109 posted on 02/23/2016 7:35:47 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Pikachu_Dad
"Turtles are not to be frivolous about."

;-)

110 posted on 02/24/2016 4:33:27 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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111 posted on 02/27/2016 4:03:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Duke C.

Itself.


112 posted on 02/27/2016 6:50:59 PM PST by onedoug
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