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Trump is Right, America Doesn’t Win Wars Anymore
US Defense Watch ^ | February 16 2016 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 02/16/2016 8:08:37 PM PST by pboyington

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1 posted on 02/16/2016 8:08:37 PM PST by pboyington
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And we can thank the bottomfeeding politicians, “judges” and “lawyers” for that. When the decision is made to put “boots on the ground”, they should be the first ones to go. Give ‘em a copy of their own “ROEs”. See how well they can do fighting a war in handcuffs with a set goal to lose the fight.


2 posted on 02/16/2016 8:13:38 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (02-13-2016. America's Blackest Day.)
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With the lunatic Left and the so-called “conservative purists” attacking Trump with everything they have it’s beginning to look like the grandees of the GOPe are going to get their default candidate: Marco Rubio/Jeb Bush, the two-sided marionette.

And America will never win again.


3 posted on 02/16/2016 8:13:41 PM PST by TTFlyer
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Thank- you!

GO TRUMP!


4 posted on 02/16/2016 8:15:01 PM PST by Guenevere (If.the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: pboyington
The nation has been able to wage endless war in the 21st Century because there is no military draft. No draft equals war ad infinitum. Average Americans don't care. Why should they? They have no vested interest in the military.

This is one reason why the left wants to reinstate the draft, so that it can prevent America from fighting wars. Of course, the left is not against fighting wars if is only against fighting wars against leftists. But the left believes that reinstating the draft will make wars more unpopular and I believe that is also the motivation behind their push to register women.

Since the elimination of the draft in the wake of the Vietnam War, technology has come to the rescue of our Armed Forces. We no longer will be fighting world wars with millions of troops involved in multiple theaters as we experienced in World War II and to some degree in World War I. Now wars will be fought with computers, lasers, satellites, drones, EMTs and, God forbid, thermonuclear weapons. We need technicians more than we need grunts.

Right now we have thousands of troops along the border of North Korea who are a strategic liability acting as a tripwire. They are effective only because an attack against them will bring in the United States but one must ask why do we have to be the bait? We see this same tripwire effect in place along the eastern border of NATO and especially in Turkey. Increasingly, we are playing tripwire games in the South China Sea with China. In many of our treaty arrangements around the world we have actually made ourselves hostage to our client allies who have the option of bringing the United States into war without our approval and certainly not necessarily in our national interests.

All of this is been obvious, I've written about all of this for some time including the futility of the Iraq war, Donald Trump is not an original thinker and did not think any of this up.


5 posted on 02/16/2016 8:29:17 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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“All of this is been obvious, I’ve written about all of this for some time including the futility of the Iraq war, Donald Trump is not an original thinker and did not think any of this up.”

Oh for heaven’s sake, stop tooting your own horn. Trump has been the only candidate out there speaking to this. Even though you agree with him, you have to turn it around as being unoriginal and you’ve been saying this for some time. Well so has Trump. Give credit where credit is due for once. Geez. Whose the bigger egoist, you or Trump? At least he’s a rich egoist.


6 posted on 02/16/2016 8:40:00 PM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: nathanbedford

Good points. General Forrest was a man who knew how to wage war.


7 posted on 02/16/2016 8:41:55 PM PST by pboyington
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We have nukes, we should use them. It is better to be feared than loved, and the Muslims will never love us anyways.


8 posted on 02/16/2016 8:42:52 PM PST by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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Screw nato. If germany and france can’t be bothered to defend Europe from Russia, why is it our problem?

Shouldn’t we applaud Obama for not backing down to China on in the SCS?


9 posted on 02/16/2016 8:55:13 PM PST by JhawkAtty
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To: pboyington

Trump will I hope change that.


10 posted on 02/16/2016 8:55:22 PM PST by Republican1795.
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To: Republican1795.

Remember, Since Truman, we have had the concept of the
“limited war doctrine”. The Korean War was the first “limited war” where we do not go for all out victory.


11 posted on 02/16/2016 9:11:08 PM PST by bioqubit (bioqubit: Educated Men Make Terrible Slaves - Aristotle)
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You can’t win wars when you have poor Executive leadership and Political interference from the Congress when things don’t go there way politically.

Just like the Democrats did when they found out the public supported the war effort in Iraq. As soon as they found that out they started attacking George W. Bush and pretty much called our troops murderers for doing the job those democrats sent them to do.


12 posted on 02/16/2016 9:29:51 PM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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America doesn’t win wars because everything about us is short-term, especially our culture, which informs our politics.

If you plan to invade a place like Iraq, you had better plan to stay for at least 50 years.

We fought a war in Korea, and our presence is still required there 65 years later.

If we had stayed in Vietnam, South Vietnam would be as prosperous as South Korea is today.


13 posted on 02/16/2016 9:36:11 PM PST by PGR88
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Screw nato. If germany and france can't be bothered to defend Europe from Russia, why is it our problem?

Its worse than that - NATO is actually enabling European self-destruction and the Muslim invasion of Europe. It is enabling the proto-fascists in Brussels, and their leftist social engineering schemes.

14 posted on 02/16/2016 9:38:21 PM PST by PGR88
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15 posted on 02/16/2016 10:00:25 PM PST by Bobalu (I'm spitting on my hands, and hoisting the black flag!)
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To: flaglady47; nathanbedford
...stop tooting...

No. Nathan is right. I have also been writing for years about the immorality of fighting wars one has no intention of winning. Nathan has been writing about it from his perspective. Others here on Free Republic have done the same.

I believe the theme of "fight to win or get out" probably came from Free Republic and then crept into the writings of many in the media.

So, the bottom line is that NathanBedford is one of the truly insightful commentators on Free Republic regarding the military and war. He's worth reading, and far more often than not, he's worth heeding.

Finally, FWIW, I support Trump.

16 posted on 02/16/2016 10:26:18 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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“Finally, FWIW, I support Trump.”

Your friend, Nathan Bedford, doesn’t. Guess he isn’t THAT insightful or smart, is he.


17 posted on 02/16/2016 10:29:55 PM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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Having read his writings over the years, I consider him to be an extremely intelligent person.


18 posted on 02/16/2016 10:33:17 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Me too.


19 posted on 02/16/2016 10:57:13 PM PST by onedoug
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To: flaglady47
Your friend, Nathan Bedford, doesn’t. Guess he isn’t THAT insightful or smart, is he.

The jury is still out on that.

20 posted on 02/16/2016 11:26:47 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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